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Grimm Season 3

Thus far, Trubel is a nice addition to the core dynamic.

Nick is now cast in the role of Mentor/Teacher. (And if we all remember our Latin...) 'Qui docet, discit' - "He who teaches, learns." Nick will now not only be acquiring new information but wrapping his head about how to pass that information on to a protegee, which will in turn gift him with further insight into being a Grimm. The level to which this relationship succeeds will of course depend on how long this new dynamic can be maintained/sustained.

I'm all for adding a new Grimm, even if it's just an Apprentice Level Talent, but we must avoid both "Whiny-ness" and "Mary Sue behavior" at all costs or she'll be a lame duck character right out of the gate.

 
I'm waiting for the "late night working together" mutual attraction episode.

Oh god, don't jinx it, they've shown an aptitude for adaptation after the rocky creature of the week episodes early on, but I couldn't take a turn down that particular path...
 
They really need to do a crime that doesn't involve wessen/Grimm. Even Hank has started to comment on the fact that Portland seems to be wessen central.
 
^ Yeah or at the very least looks like wesen but turns out to be completely human.

Juliette didn't cower or run from the truth once she (ya know) knew the "ACTUAL" truth and that she wasn't going crazy, she embraced her new reality and has become a rather crucial part of team Grimm.

Indeed, fandom's really is fan-dumb if they still hate Juliette. She also has the crucial role of "person Nick can talk to about deeply troubling things."

I'm waiting for the "late night working together" mutual attraction episode.

Gah, please no that would be awful. :thumbdown:


So, here's a question. Am I the only one that thinks kidnapping Adalind's baby like that and leaving her completely in the dark might have been a line team Grimm shouldn't have crossed? I mean I get the kid is dangerous, Adalind has a history of being dangerous and the Royals really would keep coming after her but I dunno, literally stealing a woman's child like that? At the very least it's an extremely dangerous game if she ever finds out and it would be hard not to sympathize with her doing whatever she needs to to get her kid back.
 
Yeah, I honestly think if they were convincing enough they would have been better off just telling her what they planned. At the very least they wouldn't have to worry about her totally losing her shit when she finds out they lied to her and sent her baby away.

As for this episode, I enjoyed it. The case was interesting, and I liked the dynamic we got with Truble, Nick, and Hank.

I definitely don't want them to do any kind of a attraction storyline for Nick and Truble if she sticks around. Nick and Juliette are in a good place in their relationship now, I'd rather not see them ruin that with secrets and stupidity.
 
Trubel was a great addition this week to the team dynamic and written against the trope of angst-y "kid" that acts out without logic or reason. Even the instances where she has taken the initiative were measured responses to her knowledge and abiliites displayed at the time.

I'm never a fan of the "Put our characters in a situation where they can't communicate to create problems that wouldn't exist otherwise", but here it worked because at least attempts were made to try and justify the fact that they couldn't talk. It wasn't that Cell reception was dead/down, or that Trubel wanted to run off half-cocked to show how she can contribute, but rather that Nick forgot his phone in the other room while in a closed door meeting (which I've been known to do all the time) and that Trubel's motivations and experiences were informed in that people dealing with the Wessen world and not aware of what they're involved with tend to wind up in danger rather quickly. She reasoned that she had to at least see what the deal was, and I loved that she didn't just open the door when random guy/future Grimm walked up to the house. Plus as soon as she got to the hospital the first thing she did was find a phone. Brilliant. (...In that characters were shown using their brains unlike on many shows in similar situations)

All in all, I'm hoping this isn't just an expanded guest arc but a more permanent fixture of the show going forward. I like the idea of giving Nick & Juliette a Parental Experience, a "kid" without having to have a small baby involved and then worry about the it during attacks and stuff, or kidnapped and aged dramatically off screen etc etc.

It's going to give them a reason to talk about Nick & Juliette's future. The idea of what married life will be like for them, the idea of what having a child, much less raising that child in the world of a Grimm, with the ever present possibility that the child might actually one day be a Grimm is a factor in whatever decisions they make. Plus, after this week another question is raised.

If they have a child and it doesn't turn Grimm, do they raise it ignorant of the larger world like random guy was this week (which leads to bad situations time after time) or do they raise it "in the know" regardless? I vote knowledge over ignorance any day.

Plus they finally progressed "THE KEYS" storyline and Nick/Trubel gained a new "Trunk of Awesome" in the process, which provides access to new Toys! It's great. The Trunk adds a MacGuffin for future uses in various stories and situations where the trailer would of failed on the infodump. "Hey look there's stuff in here not in our books, different doo-dads, maps, information on other stuff, etc."

Overall, I'm really quite flabbergasted at how solid this show is now versus where it was when it began. The show had inklings of potential early on (reason I tuned in) but something changed somewhere along the way and I'm really at a loss as to what that change was. (Guesses: Writer shake-up, Show-Runner stopped trying to appease the Network)

Whatever it was, this show works and hopefully now that Grimm has been Renewed for Season 4 by NBC we'll continue to get character focused stories with significant growth set within the world they've created.
 
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I am guessing at some point they will decide it's too dangerous to have two keys in the same place, and Trubel will end up hitting the road with one of the keys. The Verat must have suspected the old Grimm had a key, otherwise why the repeated attempts to acquire his things.
 
I hope if she does leave it's something like that. I really like her, and I'd hate to see them kill her.
Really enjoyed this episode. I was surprised to see them go back to the stuff with the keys, they haven't dealt with them in a while.
I do agree with Technobuilder they actually managed to make the whole thing with Trubel being off on her own not feel forced. They also seemed to figure out pretty quickly once they got in contact that she was with the guys they were looking for. I hate when they drag that kind of stuff out forever.
 
^^ :cool:

Trubel was a great addition this week to the team dynamic and written against the trope of angst-y "kid" that acts out without logic or reason. Even the instances where she has taken the initiative were measured responses to her knowledge and abiliites displayed at the time.

I'm never a fan of the "Put our characters in a situation where they can't communicate to create problems that wouldn't exist otherwise", but here it worked because at least attempts were made to try and justify the fact that they couldn't talk. It wasn't that Cell reception was dead/down, or that Trubel wanted to run off half-cocked to show how she can contribute, but rather that Nick forgot his phone in the other room while in a closed door meeting (which I've been known to do all the time) and that Trubel's motivations and experiences were informed in that people dealing with the Wessen world and not aware of what they're involved with tend to wind up in danger rather quickly. She reasoned that she had to at least see what the deal was, and I loved that she didn't just open the door when random guy/future Grimm walked up to the house. Plus as soon as she got to the hospital the first thing she did was find a phone. Brilliant. (...In that characters were shown using their brains unlike on many shows in similar situations)

All in all, I'm hoping this isn't just an expanded guest arc but a more permanent fixture of the show going forward. I like the idea of giving Nick & Juliette a Parental Experience, a "kid" without having to have a small baby involved and then worry about the it during attacks and stuff, or kidnapped and aged dramatically off screen etc etc.

It's going to give them a reason to talk about Nick & Juliette's future. The idea of what married life will be like for them, the idea of what having a child, much less raising that child in the world of a Grimm, with the ever present possibility that the child might actually one day be a Grimm is a factor in whatever decisions they make. Plus, after this week another question is raised.

If they have a child and it doesn't turn Grimm, do they raise it ignorant of the larger world like random guy was this week (which leads to bad situations time after time) or do they raise it "in the know" regardless? I vote knowledge over ignorance any day.

Plus they finally progressed "THE KEYS" storyline and Nick/Trubel gained a new "Trunk of Awesome" in the process, which provides access to new Toys! It's great. The Trunk adds a MacGuffin for future uses in various stories and situations where the trailer would of failed on the infodump. "Hey look there's stuff in here not in our books, different doo-dads, maps, information on other stuff, etc."

:techman: I'm pretty sure we've even seen him leave the phone on his desk before while he went to chat with the Captain.

Overall, I'm really quite flabbergasted at how solid this show is now versus where it was when it began. The show had inklings of potential early on (reason I tuned in) but something changed somewhere along the way and I'm really at a loss as to what that change was. (Guesses: Writer shake-up, Show-Runner stopped trying to appease the Network)

Whatever it was,
this show works and hopefully now that Grimm has been Renewed for Season 4 by NBC we'll continue to get character focused stories with significant growth set within the world they've created.

EM For me the brakes went on hard during the, 'Juliet loses her memory' arc. That became almost as painful as seeing Voyager continually bumping into the Kazon.

It's been explosive for me ever since they moved past that arc.
 
One theory I've seen out there is that Trubel was brought in because Adalind is going to de-Grimm Nick in the season and they'll need a Grimm abound until Nick becomes a Grimm again. I'm kind of doubting because that's a repeat of what happened with Adalind.
 
One theory I've seen out there is that Trubel was brought in because Adalind is going to de-Grimm Nick in the season and they'll need a Grimm abound until Nick becomes a Grimm again. I'm kind of doubting because that's a repeat of what happened with Adalind.

I really hope they don't De-Grimm Nick, but if they do (and that possibility does exist), I hope that it'll be another one of those "Amazingly Unique" situations (never to be safely replicated) which after going through doesn't kill him but makes him stronger and gives him access to yet another SUPER-GRIMM ability.

I'm digging Nick being more than just another Grimm, but in fact THE GRIMM. An outlaw of the Status Quo and willing to stand up for the little guy in the face of Centuries of Royals, Secrets Societies, and the like.

Plus I'm really looking forward to Trubel meeting Bud The Repairman.
 
Whatever happened to the after effects of Nick's zombification? They dropped it early in the season and haven't gone back to it at all.

Well, they referenced it several times right after his initial exposure, but as more time passes his "zombie episodes" tend to become less and less frequent.

It got lost in the crowd.

I have a feeling it'll come up again like Nick's Super-Hearing ability, it's something that he's got but he doesn't necessarily feature it every episode.

Mainly the Zombification Process gave him greatly increased Stamina and Endurance, the ability to maintain a resting heart rate while under tremendous activity, stress, or duress, the ability to if not directly control then at least manipulate his physiological responses to survive low oxygen conditions, probably low to extreme temperatures as well.

My hope is that his next Super Power is some form of Enhanced Vision, but that's just a guess.
 
The show had inklings of potential early on (reason I tuned in) but something changed somewhere along the way and I'm really at a loss as to what that change was. (Guesses: Writer shake-up, Show-Runner stopped trying to appease the Network)
Those are all good reasons why the show has improved from a "real world" POV, but that had to translate into something on the page/screen.

My guess was that they stopped making Nick's true nature and the greater nature of the Wessen secret from characters like Hank and Juliette. Such tired old clichés provided artificial and unnecessary drama that only frustrated the viewers. Once they were in on what was going on, via help from Monroe and Rosalie (a great pair with great chemistry that also adds to the story without being schmaltzy), there was a real sense of teamwork starting last season and well into this season that has tremendously improved the story overall.

I'm just waiting for poor Wu to be clued in. He already had his big run-in with that Philipino monster (plus his odd foam-eating episode from last season) and I was sad that they kind-of continued to let him think he was crazy and spend time in an asylum, bouncing off the padded walls.

I, too, feel this show has really turned around and am really looking forward to the future. It has a permanent place on my DVR.
 
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