News Green Lantern-Inspired Series in Works at HBO Max, From Greg Berlanti

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  1. Serveaux

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    Thank you. Certain people insist on forcinh the Diggle character into the GL world, which makes no sense. Green Lantern has its own set of characters, a rich legacy and a freaking universe as its canvas. Flicking CW-DC characters into this new series serves no creative purpose at all.

    Most of the CW-DC shows to be sure.

    ...and Hal Jordan has to finally receive a proper adaptation to film, since we know what happened the last time...
     
  3. Serveaux

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    The major fault of the Green Lantern script was leaning too heavily on the source material and treating it too reverently. For one thing the mythology of Hal Jordan, whom I love, doesn't lend itself to a particularly compelling character arc. Johns tried, decades after the fact, to instill that into him with an expanded backstory but backstory is the least compelling, clumsiest sort of motivation for a movie character. In the movie it worked out as "This guy is a charming, talented fuck-up, now let's go back and explain the trauma that causes him to make these really simple fuck-ups that render him less than grown-up. And then let's make him a late turning point out of him deciding to grow up."

    You know, there are movies where that's worked, I guess. Light romantic comedies.

    You have to rethink Jordan or at least find an actor who can get some juice out of him. Love Ryan Reynolds, sort of, but they needed Robert Downey to sell a half-baked script.*

    And then they tried to do a literal recreation of the intergalactic milieu from the comics - Oa, the Corps, etc - that maybe James Cameron could have pulled off. It certainly required resources and an artistic vision that the film's creators didn't have.

    BTW, I liked the movie a lot anyway.

    There are facets to the comics that they could productively foreground in a series. Make the Guardians into characters - there are a few, in the comics - instead of the otherworldly deities that they were in the first comics (the version which the movie seemed to have drawn most heavily on) even if it makes them a little harder to portray as alien and omniscient.

    I mean, the main thing that we've learned about the Guardians, over and over and over is:

    They're arrogant dicks.

    I'm Hal Jordan and all of a sudden I'm fighting an invasion of cyborg zebras from the end of time, the first thing I do is ring up Oa and demand "Okay, what have you blue fucks done now? What did you decide not to tell us this time? Because we both know you either created the MegaZebras or you pissed off their ancestors big time!"

    *Which he did, in Iron Man.
     
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  4. Noname Given

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    It served as BOTH (IMO).
     
  5. Christopher

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    That seems unlikely. I assume the new show will create its own, more TV-budget-friendly designs for Oa rather than using the same ones from the movie.
     
  6. Noname Given

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    Sheesh - They provided a glimpse of Oa using existing footage to TEASE provide an Easter Egg to some viewers that a Berlanti run Greeen Lantern series is coming. Of course they'll do their own set design/have a smaller budget - BUT that doesn't negate the fact that's what they USED the existing footage for.
     
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    I think they might use the movie as best they can for long range exterior/"establishing" scenes, but the new material will most likely be some kind of small , cheaper set, like some kind of "office".

    I assume Berlanti has a lot easier access to the movie stuff than any other property? ANd how it was done... can they throw it into new TV productions, to save some money?

    For me, the movie's best stuff was the Oa scenes...they felt REALLY cosmic and epic.

    It was the Earth stuff that I feel they failed big time.


    Hmm... do you think they might reverse some things and have Jessica be the "veteran", despite being younger than Diggle?

    What would be cool is if she mentors Diggle on the powers, but Diggle mentors her on the hero stuff...(If he is even there).
     
  8. Nerys Myk

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    Jessica Cruz is from the Prime Earth.
     
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    Do we know that yet? (And is that DC TV Earth Prime, or comic Earth Prime?)
     
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    Yep. She initially had an Earth-3 ring, but she's local.
     
  11. Christopher

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    No, it isn't. Some online pundits mistakenly assumed it was a teaser for the upcoming series (which is way too early in development to have any such teaser material) because they didn't remember the GL movie it was actually taken from.

    https://www.digitalspy.com/tv/ustv/...rths-green-lantern-movie-cameo-ryan-reynolds/
    It was just a wink and a nod to Greg Berlanti's first DC project, in the same vein as Part 1's nods to the Keaton and West Batmen.
     
  12. JoeZhang

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    As long as it has this scene I'll be happy
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    I want to see Hal and I want to see John Stewart, and yes, I want him to be Diggle. It would be a disappointment if that's not so. There are so many GLs out there that can be fun, but I think the two big ones should be at the center of the show
     
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    There's no question that the shots from the GL movie were included in order to tease the fact that we'll be seeing the Corps again soon enough. ;)

    The landscapes on Oa were kind of video-game "cosmic," I suppose, but there was no one there except Sinestro and Jordan. If you didn't know who the other characters were, the filmmakers contributed nothing but CG puppets with generic characterizations that a few good actors labored to give vocal expression to.
     
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    They didn't have a problem with a guy just because he was left handed.
     
  16. Alan Roi

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    IMO, if there's a John Stewart they should draw from the source material.
     
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    Karl!!!! ;)
     
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    Comics.
     
  19. theenglish

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    I think an "HBO" TV budget can do a hell of a better job. One of the poorer points of the movie was the design of OA. It looked bleak and depressing--OA should look brighter and more hopeful. One of the great elements of the Green Lantern Corps is the sense of friendship and camaraderie we see--the other is that OA looks like a bright and hopeful technological future. This shouldn't be difficult to create.
     
  20. JoeZhang

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    Thinking about it - if it is HBO, we can go place we could not in other series:

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