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Grade "Breach"

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I'm in a generous mood tonight. B-

Cliff scenes are cliff scenes - hard to do them any other way. I liked that everything wasn't shown in excrutiating detail - we had to supply some of the details ourselves. Archer finally seems to be developing a backbone. The conflict between the Doctor and Patient, while a little predictable, seemed slightly harder-edged than is usual for ENT.

Not a great episode, and I probably overrated it, but by ENT's standards of this Season - less disappointing than others.
 
B+

Certainly nothing particularly new, but it was still a nice morality play nonetheless. The last scene at the end (with Phlox calling his son) was very well handled. Honestly, though, I'm too tired to go into a full analysis, but suffice it to say, I thought The Breach was pretty good.

IMHO, it seems that even this show's filler episodes are improving :)
 
B-
I liked the Endaran plot - nice!
I didn't care much for the cave plot, though. The only things of interest to me being that they make use of Mayweather's abilities and seeing the scientists crawl up the wall.
I liked the Tribble scene, too. Phlox feeding that tribble to the lizard and Hoshi's reaction... priceless! :D Phlox must have a whole population of them on board to feed his critters (and maybe as a secret weapon against Klingons ;) ).
 
Posted by Farm Boy:
Posted by James Dixon:
But as for you guys who feel it's 'A' or 'B' material, your justification for doing so is quite typical of what B&B are Aiming for...

Posted by Timo47:
You hit the nail right on the head.
He usually does. :)

Problem is, that often the newcomer fans who've only seen Enterprise (not the earlier series) band together, take the hammer from me, and start swinging it at My head!
 
Posted by James Dixon:
Posted by Farm Boy:
Posted by James Dixon:
But as for you guys who feel it's 'A' or 'B' material, your justification for doing so is quite typical of what B&B are Aiming for...

Posted by Timo47:
You hit the nail right on the head.
He usually does. :)

Problem is, that often the newcomer fans who've only seen Enterprise (not the earlier series) band together, take the hammer from me, and start swinging it at My head!
:lol: :lol: Well, I hope you duck, take the hammer back and coninue nailin', my friend. Love readin' your posts. ;)
 
I had to watch the ending five times.

Because I had a pressing desire to examine each minute detail,not really.

Because the spelunking was undeniably soporific.

I give it C+ - (+ for Phlox,- for caves).
 
B. I liked it.
When the Tribble got eaten- HA! That was great! Those Tribbles are such trouble, aren't they?
I liked the fact that we got to see all seven main characters. (Entire eps go by sometimes without seeing one of them.)
Billingly Billingsly Billingsly. How amazing is that guy? When he flipped out and started yelling my hubby and I looked at each other like, 'whoa!' His whole demanor changed- he seemed genuinely upset. It was like he was a different person. Great acting.
I liked the fact that Travis knew more than others and had more experience in a certain area but I missed the part where growing up on a cargo ship and feeling more comfy in no gravity gave him said experience. I also liked how The Travster was in charge for a minute.
The climbing scenes, although they seemed unnecessary, were well done and looked real. (What was with that, anyway? Is one of the writers an avid climbing fan?)
When the three fell, I was stressed! Ususally I'm like, " Oh, they are a main character, nothing's going to happen to them" but this time I was really wondering how they would get out of this one! It was exciting.
As for the lesson they were teaching- is it really Trek without the cheesy morality play? I don't think so.
 
B. Phlox rocks. :) Seriously, though... more Phlox and LESS (much LESS) Trip. What on Earth is the Chief Engineer of a starship doing spellunking about on a search mission on the verge of extremely hostile conflict? Is he expendable to the ship?? :rolleyes: :mad:

Are there no experienced rock climbers or geologists on Enterprise? Just "I spent my life on a space freighter" MAYWEATHER? Um... Riiiiiiiight. They'll get *really* far with their exploration mission (or whatever the mission is supposed to be for the vessel). :rolleyes:

Loved the Tribble bit. A burp from the cage would've been a grand touch. :lol: Does Mayweather serve any purpose but to die and get hurt like Chekov? Wait, he doubles as the oversexed (black stereotyped) male too with the over-eager cheesy grin (like Harry).

Overall, this was one of the more enjoyable Enterprise episodes. The natural rock-climbing ability of the Denobulans was nifty. The morality play was interesting as far as this show goes. Not as badly done as 24th Century Trek.
 
Posted by Jaysisko:
Posted by nanobot:
I'm usually not a stickler about this, and I'm sure people here have discussed it up to here, but....how exactly is everyone going to forget about tribbles by the time Kirk encounters them?
I'll field this one. Everyone doesn't have to forget about them. Right now, Hoshi and Phlox seem to be the only crew members aware of them. And I doubt any other Starfleet people know of them. Right now, the only tribble we've seen is dead. What makes you think we'll see any more and that they will be well known in the future?

Okay, I'll tell you what makes me think that. Phlox is part of an interspecies medical research program that is filled with doctors who study and exchange information on the life-cycles of various species. He writes reports, and reads reports. Information ciruclates. What makes you think his knowledge of tribbles and their predators is somehow singular? Where did he procure the specimens for his lab? He still has the lizard, or whatever it was, so presumably he'll be procuring more live food for it. Just because *we* only see it once doesn't mean it disappears.

So that's why.
 
Posted by emily_reich:
no, no, no...

ever seen Smallville?? THAT show needs to focus on one plot.... i've seen some eps that have about FOUR plots, all of which have ALMOST NOTHING to do with each other, if anything....

so i don't complain about ENT's multiple plots....

But Smallville on balance is a better show than Enterprise....
 
Posted by James Dixon:
2. "They're putting the 'message' back into Trek"... Phlox's ethical dilemma/prejudice... It's like the tribble scene above: Let's chuck this in to give it a more Trek-like feel and Maybe pull some TOS fans into liking E...
Yah, I like the doctor but this sub-plot was so weak and predictable, it demands comparison to Phlox's similar scene from last season... It also reminded me A Lot of the same old sickbay scenes we'd seen in TNG, DS9, and V...

I think E should have an episode where an alien race learns about "tolerance" by fooling Archer and the crew into thinking that Martin Luther King is living in outer space... :p
 
Posted by AlexR:
... getting Mayweather involved is good, and getting him constantly injured isn't. Give that a rest, I say.

At least this time he wasn't the typical inept injured party who's there just to make things more difficult for the "A" cast. This time he saved their bacon!
 
Hmm, shouldn't James Dixon be warned for the same reason as Reno Floyd?
 
7/10 and I'm being generous here. Phlox's A-plot was obviously more interesting than the rock climbing adventure but both stories had their moments. John Shiban managed to insert some humor into the script, which Enterprise could use more often. Still, both stories never pushed the envelope so the episode never rose above mediocre. A typical Ent episode. Well executed, but playing it safe.
 
I'm gonna give it a B+/B.

Many others have sung Billingsley's praises more eloquently than I can; he doubtless made the show. (I have give Blalock a nod for her solid back-up work as well; after this and "Stigma", I enjoy how Phlox and T'Pol's characters play off each other, especially in serious debates that involve both objective rationale and deeply personal emotions. It's not an arguing, give-and-take dynamic, but a supportive and sympathetic yet coolly intelligent meeting of colleagues who're a bit more experienced than others on board.) And I actually sort of liked the spelunking scenes; as someone who was thoroughly sick of all the "Trapped in a Confined Space!" episodes last season, I enjoyed a set - a cave set, the most overused of all! - which actually seemed original and convincing, and I found the cool-yet-intense blue-wash here both visually pleasing and a nice break for the eyes from Enterprise's usual steel-grey palette.

The episode was slightly soured, though, by viewing it in light of recent events. We get, in quick succession, the "I'm going to help you whether you like it or not" pronouncement by Phlox, the "believe me, you don't want to get in a war with us" showdown with Archer and the Xemians, and Trip's "we'll SHOOT you if we have to" threat to the geeky, out-of-touch, effete scientists they're supposed to be rescuing.

Now, Archer's tough "honor your part of the bargain and we'll honor ours" fiat was the best way to deal with the Xemians, I unequivocally grant. I'm a bit shakier on Phlox's words, but perhaps he figured that the only way he was going to get the guy to believe his goodwill was to force it on him (and perhaps he didn't really *mean* it, but was just using the tack as an opening for his big speech). And, now, I can completely understand Trip's feelings upon hearing the Denobulans' initial refusal, having been through a perilous and physically exhausting climb, having almost died, and having had a good friend seriously injured on the way (good *God*, that was a horrible accident for Travis, having his leg *jammed* like that). Having his whole persuasive argument to the Denobulans be "We went through hell to get to you, so we get to say what you do!!" makes me a bit uneasy, however, particularly since the show seems to agree with his viewpoint - stacking the deck character-wise pitting Rough Hardy Guys against, as I said, rather effete, out-of-touch eggheads (their climbing abilities notwithstanding), having Trip threaten to shoot them *again* on subsequent occasions, and failing to having either Trip *or* Reed offer a single other persuasive argument to the Denobulans, not even a brusque "hey, we're not the Denobulan Science Directorate, and we're under their orders - like you are. You got a problem, you take it up with them". Again, I understand the exasperating nature of the situation, but if Trip can't hold together in that manner under pressure, I have to question how he's risen so far in rank in the first place. Anyhow, the whole situation just left a bad taste in my mouth. (Recognizing a bit of a physical similarity between Trip and George W. Bush didn't help.)

Now, the heroes' actions in each of the three scenarios can be counted as varying degrees of defensible, but taken so closely together, the ep seems to be tinged with the argument that humanity (and its associates) has the right to impose what it wants on members of other societies and cultures, relying on force and advantage to enforce its moral will. That's distasteful without the debatable real-life parallels.

To repeat an old complaint - humanity should go out in space and have its perceptions challenged, and it's instead having them relentlessly reaffirmed. I have no doubts, from both a looking-at-it that humanity has something great and wonderful to offer the galactic community, but it should be *learning*, too. I liked this ep all right, but I wish it could've broken out of the box a bit more.
 
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