Gotham - Season 1

[Marc]

Sports. The nemesis of TV series.
Trying to watch CSI this season (10PM Sunday) has been nearly impossible.

Of course, American Idol also only exists to screw up Fox's genre TV schedule.

And it's a problem that's compounded by the television coverage becasue play is often stopped when so 3 minutes of ads can be run.

My pvr was set to record a program recently but a Sunday NFL game was running overtime.

at the point the pvr started recording, there were 2 minutes of play left. Between stopages and ad breaks it took them 10 minutes to play 2 mintues.

Sci-fi fans in Australia also got screwed over for many years. Channel 9 had the rights to Star Trek and Babylon 5 and would run them at 11pm Thursday night. Unfortunate a live sports show would continually run overtime and as the years went by the over runs got worse.

Okay I guess they would argue the sports show had better ratings and it gave the money so they could run Trek etc etc but to lack the common decenly to at least adjust the scheduling was pathetic.

 

[Forbin]

CSI, which is supposed to run Sunday at 10, has lately been on either at odd times like 10:22, 10:30, or pre-empted altogether. Our DVR keeps getting the end of The Good Wife.

And how many times in the good ol' days has a Sunday night genre show on Fox been "joined in progress" or pre-empted because of Sunday Night Football?

 

[Marc]

CSI, which is supposed to run Sunday at 10, has lately been on either at odd times like 10:22, 10:30, or pre-empted altogether. Our DVR keeps getting the end of The Good Wife.

Could be worse.

Could get it on halfway through the episode.

Canadian tv stations love to do that.

"we now join the scheduled program already in progress"

 

[Joel_Kirk]

I didn't see this posted yet, but I came across this article while web browsing:
http://wallstcheatsheet.com/entertainment/the-fatal-flaw-of-gotham-batman-without-batman.html/?a=viewall

Note: I disagree with this article, since I have found the show intriguing so far.

 

[JD]

I really have enjoyed the show a lot, but I still wonder if it might not work better if it were in a Gotham where there is no Batman, rather than before Batman. That way they could still give us the iconic characters doing their thing, without having to worry about whether or not they really should be doing that before Batman came around.

 

[Guy Gardener]

It's a Wonderful Life Batman?

There was an arms race.

A lot of the criminals wouldn't have become capes if it wasn't for Batman.

 

[Nerys Myk]

It's a Wonderful Life Batman?

There was an arms race.

A lot of the criminals wouldn't have become capes if it wasn't for Batman.

I hate that line of thinking and the term "capes".

 

[Guy Gardener]

Sometimes I get nothing but net without even trying.

 

[Flying Spaghetti Monster]

I really have enjoyed the show a lot, but I still wonder if it might not work better if it were in a Gotham where there is no Batman, rather than before Batman. That way they could still give us the iconic characters doing their thing, without having to worry about whether or not they really should be doing that before Batman came around.

I just like watching a cop/ procedural show sent against the milieu of the Bat-verse.. and whether something "should" have happened before Batman or not has no concern to me.. Batman's story is tweaked anyway with every incarnation. I just enjoy the nods,.. most I enjoy the show, the look, these characters, the gritty drama mixed uneasily with over-the-top comic book stuff. I can sit back and enjoy the show not for where it's going - which is what most people are trying to figure out - but for where it is.. and how they are trying to crack the code between serious drama in an insane comic sensibility.

 

[Crusher Disciple]

I can't say that I disagree with anything in that article. I originally passed on Gotham when another BBSer described it as "Batman without Batman." I thought there literally was no Bruce Wayne in the show, period.

I started watching with Harvey Dent, and I think if they'll try to put in more of Bruce in the show and drop the police procedural format it would be a much stronger show. Personally, I don't care about how they villains cane to be, how Jim Gordon came to be, or which side of the mafia is up this week. All I care about is how Batman came to be. That's what I come to the story to learn about.

They've got an enormously talented kid playing Bruce. He's the untapped resource of the show IMO.

 

[tomalak301]

Gotham has been renewed for Season 2.

 

[JD]

Glad to hear it, I've been enjoying the show so far. I've felt that it's been getting better as the season has gone along, so by the time we get to Season 2, it could be pretty great.

 

[Icemizer]

Liked it all tonight even the Nigma parts came off well. Falcone is one evil guy and I thought he was perfect in the ep. Bullock was terrific and the commissioner was particularly well handled. Thought Zazzs came off a little flat this week.

 

[Borgminister]

Bat-Who?

This show has carved out its own identity. Strongly directed and produced, albeit a paint-by-numbers, episode. Too bad fish couldn't become the joker, given the torture she's about to endure laughingly.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Um, no.

The last line was something like "there had been a massive shoot out at Fish Mooney's place".

Fish is free, dead or recaptured, but what's the point of talking about a massive shoot out if the status quo remains unchanged, why kill her off, and why not give the girl a wicked cool death scene?

That's 2 episodes with no Bruce.

Do we know why?

 

[Borgminister]

Who cares? Standalone eppies like this are just fine if well done--and this was.

Fish is recaptured--see coming attractions. And the death scene may be to come, who knows?

 

[Guy Gardener]

Maybe he's sick, and I want to send flowers?

That is what decent human beings do.

 

[Masiral]

Um, no.

The last line was something like "there had been a massive shoot out at Fish Mooney's place".

Fish is free, dead or recaptured, but what's the point of talking about a massive shoot out if the status quo remains unchanged, why kill her off, and why not give the girl a wicked cool death scene?

Falcone says that all of Fish's people are dead - that's probably the "massive shootout".

 

[Guy Gardener]

I did consider that.

But surely Fish would have heard that ruckus if it was loud enough to be reported to the police, and therefore not walked into the lion's mouth?

 

[Taylirious]

I feel bad for Riddler.