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Gotham - Season 1

^He had a room full of bondage toys. There was a sexual element to the story, and there was a helpless, victimized woman involved, so yeah, however you split hairs about what kind of villain he is, the writers still chose to lump sex and violence and female helplessness together, and that's a cliche I could've done without.
 
I was wondering if the glass was reflective on the outside....Did we ever see the apartment from outside?
 
I'm kind of curious about the fireplace from next week's episode.

Are they going to reveal that Thomas Wayne once fought crime as the Batman? That would certainly explain why there are so many psychos running around Gotham ten or so years before Young Master Bruce takes on the cowl.
 
Are there any more Batman villains on the horizon...it seems like every villain they've shown has become a murderer.

That's kind of annoying...can't someone be a villain without killing???

And it seems like there's an average on 1 death per week by a future Batman nemesis. Mostly Penguin, but now 1 each with the other two recurring...is Poison Ivy next?
 
I'm kind of curious about the fireplace from next week's episode.

Are they going to reveal that Thomas Wayne once fought crime as the Batman? That would certainly explain why there are so many psychos running around Gotham ten or so years before Young Master Bruce takes on the cowl.

Well, it was part of Silver Age comics lore that Thomas once wore a "bat-man" costume to a costume ball where he foiled a robbery attempt by gangster Lew Moxon, who later hired Joe Chill to assassinate him in retribution. The costume incident was captured on film, and when Batman found it and watched it, he realized that he must have been subconsciously remembering his father's bat costume when he chose to become Batman.

Although I expect the cave will just be where Thomas kept his secret files on Wayne Enterprises.
 
Are there any more Batman villains on the horizon...it seems like every villain they've shown has become a murderer.

That's kind of annoying...can't someone be a villain without killing???

And it seems like there's an average on 1 death per week by a future Batman nemesis. Mostly Penguin, but now 1 each with the other two recurring...is Poison Ivy next?

Clayface (not sure which version) is rumored to be coming next season.
 
Well, I guess they're not worried about totally shaking up any established continuity.
That means no one is safe on this show.
 
Now I'm looking at the scenes with Barbara & Leslie a bit different.
Wondering if Barbara is going to try & kill her.
I was getting that vibe from the scenes with the two of them, but I figured Lesilie was safe. Now I'm not so sure
 
I rather liked Fish's new look. Too bad it was just for one episode. Then again, she fell in the water, which is an ambiguous "death," so she could come back someday.

Hard to believe this was the season finale. It felt more like the episode before the finale. Lots of threads had unsatisfying closure. Okay, so Penguin's won the war for control of the underworld, the other gang lords are out of the picture, Nygma's had a psychotic break, and Barbara's confessed to murder... but Loeb is still commissioner, all the corrupt officials in the government are still in place, Jim still hasn't told Leslie he loves her, Bruce hasn't achieved anything more than finding a staircase, Cat's new role in Fish's gang had no payoff, Bullock was just kind of there, and just in general there was very little sense of resolution to anything.

I read that when they got an order for six extra episodes, they had to pad it out with the Dollmaker and the Flying Graysons and the Red Hood and the like -- why didn't they spend it fleshing out the closing arc more fully? Do the Ogre thing two weeks earlier, make this a three-week finale arc, explore things in more depth. At least do something to give the season a sense of resolution rather than just suddenly stopping.

Man, the more I think about it, the more I realize how totally wasted Bruce and Alfred were this week. They spent the whole episode in one room and all they achieved was finding a secret door. That was more padding than anything else, and a terrible waste of two of the show's strongest characters.

When Gordon was cornered in the hospital, I was really hoping that Bullock would show up with a squad of cops behind him, that we'd get some actual payoff to Gordon's seasonal arc of winning the respect and loyalty of the police. But the show totally abandoned that, backpedaling to a status quo where hardly anybody's on Jim's side but Bullock, Essen (who was a total no-show), and some random rookie who's gone after his one, only, and rather purposeless scene. (And as I feared, Allen and Montoya have been completely dropped as well. Why did they give Gordon two major allies and then immediately erase them from existence?)

Damn, this show is a mess. It's easily the worst comics-based show on TV. (Although I've only seen one episode of Powers, so I can't be sure about that one.) It is, at most, a guilty pleasure, watchable more for its camp value than anything else. It's weird to say that about a post-Nolan Batman-based show. I continue to find it bizarre that a show whose basic premise is more grounded and gritty than the source material, with no capes and tights and masks, has ended up being so totally wacky and cartoony.
 
^I thought so too, that he admitted it indirectly in saying the Ogre was targeting people he loved. But apparently the stance of the show's writing staff is that it didn't count. They set up the idea that their love is still undeclared, and then failed to resolve it, along with all the other things they left dangling.
 
I kept waiting for Falcone to say a code word that would turn Butch back to his side but Butch played the conflicted role fairly well.
Nygma snapping at the end was ok. I expect much more from him next season.
The Bruce and Alfred stuff was a waste.
My favorite mob boss is now dead which was another one waste.
Fish might be dead, how unclever she fell in the water.
I will be interested to watch the penguin grow in power next year and hopefully get a little fatter.
Catgirl got a new but useless look.
All in all these guys need to watch the Flash to learn how to build a solid story while giving characters some growth.
I sill be back next season though to see how they do
 
If Bullock had shown up at the hospital with a squad of pro-Gordon cops and they had then taken down Loeb and the mysterious men of power in the city, well, the series would be over, but for freak-of-the-week episodes.

While they don't have to follow the comics, I wouldn't expect Gotham to get cleaned up so easily, else why the hell do they need a Batman? Bruce's eventual emergence isn't to fight freak-of-the-week sociopaths, it is to fight the corruption that he is slowly uncovering.

Gordon needs Bruce because he ultimately can't do it all alone. At least that's the comics version, but I can't see the point having Gordon clean things up so suddenly.
 
Nygma snapping at the end was ok. I expect much more from him next season.

Hmm, I expressed myself badly. What bothered me there was the lack of closure for Miss Kringle. She's still at pretty much exactly the same place that she's always been -- perhaps slightly less hostile to Ed than she was originally, and perhaps vaguely suspicious of him, but still just the unattainable love interest. Her arc has been incredibly shallow, given that it's been developing for most of the season. I was expecting some actual payoff by the end of the season -- either she totally falls for him and becomes his sidekick in crime, or he kills her and snaps completely. Instead, this was just left dangling with an incredibly weak cliffhanger -- "Oh, I found your acrostic, hmmmm." This was the stuff of a random scene in the middle of a random episode, not the payoff scene in a season finale.
 
But she was the trigger to his psychotic break and thus served her purpose and she can be dealt with next season. It was sloppy writing and plotting but so is most of the show.
 
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