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Godzilla, Kong, Gamera & Co.: The Kaiju Mega-Thread

I wish it were subtitled, but the comments on YouTube reveal that the closing line is "That monster will never forgive us."

I was easily able to understand "Is that... Godzilla?" in the shot used as the screencap. Which is interesting, since this is set in the '40s, so how is Godzilla already known? Well, maybe the scene is from later in the movie after news of Godzilla's emergence has spread.

Hearing the announcer say "Gojira Mainasu Wan" at the end made me think of something. I've been taking the title to be a reference to "T minus one," like a countdown, since it's set before Godzilla's traditional 1954 debut. But the Japanese use the English loan word "minus" to mean "negative," for instance, "minus energy" for "negative energy." So it could also be interpreted to mean "Godzilla negative one," especially since the logo is written as "G -1.0". I don't know if that means anything, though, unless it's just another way of expressing the idea that this is before the original Godzilla. (Which would make the 1954 one Godzilla Zero, which kind of works, since most continuities center on a second Godzilla that emerged after the original one died, either briefly thereafter in the Showa series or decades later in the Heisei series and most of the Millennium films, with the exceptions of Megaguirus, where the original's death was retconned out, and GMK, where the original had nearly died but regenerated.)
The version I posted above is from the official English Godzilla channel and has subtitles. It says right there in the trailer "Postwar, Japan had lost everything. From 'zero' to 'minus'". So it simply means that Godzilla is destroying what's left of Japan after the war.
 
The version I posted above is from the official English Godzilla channel and has subtitles.

Oh, I see. I saw that the "CC" symbol was shaded out so I assumed it didn't, but the subtitles are burned in.


It says right there in the trailer "Postwar, Japan had lost everything. From 'zero' to 'minus'". So it simply means that Godzilla is destroying what's left of Japan after the war.

Yes, of course I know that from previous publicity. But many titles have more than one layer of meaning.
 
This movie looks fantastic. Really gets back to the roots of the monster and the era it came from. I can't friggin wait to see it.
 
I did not know the director of "Minus One" actually put this in one of his previous films as a dream sequence

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I did not know the director of "Minus One" actually put this in one of his previous films as a dream sequence

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I remember watching that movie years ago thinking "this is how you do a modern Godzilla with CG". This was way before Godzilla in 2014 and Shin Godzilla in 2016. The director clearly had a vision of how to do a good Godzilla movie. It's a pity it took this long but he got there in the end.
 
Taking a break from the obviously exciting news, one of my favorite kaiju-centric YouTube channels is Paper Finz, as they do very informative and entertaining videos about all kinds of kaiju media. Their newest video is a comparison of the original Japanese cut of Mothra and the American release cut:
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I have often wanted a more Lovecraftisn "Kaiju" film...call it storm-chase horror...a whole town's populace frozen in the streets looking skyward....unable to flee. Chasers who happen upon the scene find absolute silence.
 
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Gamera: Rebirth is out now on Netflix. I’ve only watched the first episode so far, which was pretty good. The animation isn’t on the same level as Singular Point, but it’s got way more action and the episodes are longer.
 
I liked the new Godzilla well enough ( Godzilla vs. Kong was weak though) so i'll be definitely checking this out. And it has John Goodman!! :)
 
Some of the YouTube trailer breakdowns suggest that the Americans drop a nuclear bomb on Tokyo in an effort to stop Godzilla, which is where the, "The monster will never forgive us", line comes from and that the final shot in the trailer of Godzilla emerging from the cloud of debris visibly scarred is a result of Godzilla surviving the blast.
 
Gamera: Rebirth is out now on Netflix. I’ve only watched the first episode so far, which was pretty good. The animation isn’t on the same level as Singular Point, but it’s got way more action and the episodes are longer.
I only watched the first episode but it's pretty good. I like it a lot better than Singular point which leans on anime tropes. This Gamera series is a lot more down to earth.

Some of the YouTube trailer breakdowns suggest that the Americans drop a nuclear bomb on Tokyo in an effort to stop Godzilla, which is where the, "The monster will never forgive us", line comes from and that the final shot in the trailer of Godzilla emerging from the cloud of debris visibly scarred is a result of Godzilla surviving the blast.
I didn't get that from the trailers and not sure how that would play since Godzilla was created/awakened by nuclear tests which already plays a big theme. Dropping a bomb on Tokyo seems unlikely and a bit heavy handed in political undertones.
 
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I liked the new Godzilla well enough ( Godzilla vs. Kong was weak though) so i'll be definitely checking this out. And it has John Goodman!! :)

I have never seen any of the old (or newer) Japanese Godzilla movies. But I enjoyed the two US Godzilla movies, and actually had a blast with Godzilla vs Kong on a saturdaynight with some beers and snacks. Just such a dumb but entertaining movie.
Seeing the trailer for the newest Japanese Godzilla movie has me very intrigued. Both about that movie, but also the history of the Godzilla movies.
 
I have never seen any of the old (or newer) Japanese Godzilla movies. But I enjoyed the two US Godzilla movies, and actually had a blast with Godzilla vs Kong on a saturdaynight with some beers and snacks. Just such a dumb but entertaining movie.
Seeing the trailer for the newest Japanese Godzilla movie has me very intrigued. Both about that movie, but also the history of the Godzilla movies.

Yep, there are definitely only two US Godzilla movies. :whistle:
 
I have never seen any of the old (or newer) Japanese Godzilla movies. But I enjoyed the two US Godzilla movies, and actually had a blast with Godzilla vs Kong on a saturdaynight with some beers and snacks. Just such a dumb but entertaining movie.
Seeing the trailer for the newest Japanese Godzilla movie has me very intrigued. Both about that movie, but also the history of the Godzilla movies.

I've seen a couple of the original ones from the 60s or 70s and with the right people or a certain alcohol level watching them is a blast. I'm not a B movie fan but sometimes there are exceptions. I also like to mention the cultural difference aspects of Godzilla - radiation in Japan creates huge monsters, radiation in the US creates Superheroes. I wonder why that is ;)
 
I've seen a couple of the original ones from the 60s or 70s and with the right people or a certain alcohol level watching them is a blast. I'm not a B movie fan but sometimes there are exceptions. I also like to mention the cultural difference aspects of Godzilla - radiation in Japan creates huge monsters, radiation in the US creates Superheroes. I wonder why that is ;)
Americans did radiation creating giants first, with Them! Godzilla was originally a natural giant made radioactive by nuclear tests. The idea of a creature turned giant by radiation was first used by Toho in Frankenstein Conquers the World, and first used for Godzilla in the '90s.

The original 1954 film is brilliant and powerful allegory. The sequels were reduced to mere disaster/action movies, and eventually became silly kids' movies. The reboots from the '80s on tend to be more serious.
 
1953's The Beast from 20,000 Fathoms was the more influential movie despite the creature merely awakening from nuclear bombs/radiation.
 
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