If the Organians were disgusted over that Klingon skirmish in Errand of Mercy, one only wonders what they thought of the Temporal Wars. We can presume now that the Q did not take part in all that. And as for the Prophets I'm curious how the Temporal War is perceived to them since they experience time in a different fashion.
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Interesting thoughts. So then, the Metrons, Nacene, and Iconians were considered the most likely suspects, based on motive and opportunity (and, of course, ability), but were ruled out by some unrevealed factor? Does Starfleet have some way of contacting those three entities, then? Or monitoring them in any fashion?
It's a fun reveal that the Iconians are a known entity in the 32nd century, despite being considered a long-lost civilization in the 24th.
Vance: So, are any of you responsible for the anomaly?
Metrons: Not me!
Nacene: Of course not.
Iconians: We're innocent.
Federation Betazoid assistant: They all seem to be honest.
I wonder what the Iconians look like.
I know what they look like in STO, but I wonder if they'll ever show up in live-action Star Trek.
I know what they look like in STO, but I wonder if they'll ever show up in live-action Star Trek.
Who said they were ruled out? Vance only said the Q were ruled out, presumably the Metrons, Nacene and Iconians are still considered suspects, or at least species of interest.
You're right, my bad. I thought they were ruled out for some reason. The exact lines are:
Vance said:
That suggests that the four civilizations (Metrons, Nacene, surviving Iconians, Q) are simply ones of the number of super-advanced ones that possibly could have done this. Not that necessarily would have.
But the fact that Vance rules out the Q for being incommunicado for 600 years and not prone to destruction (oddly), makes one think the other three, not ruled out, have been causing issues in the last 600 years, or have done significantly destructive or anarchic behavior of this magnitude.
I don't think Unknown Species 10-C will be any of these namedropped ones, but it's interesting to parse the words and see what it reveals about Federation history and these groups.
Apollo is back and he's PISSED
They were only disgusted because the Feds and the Klingons were playing in their yard.
Where's Starbuck?
I mean, if he took the time to name all of the godly powered/uber technologically advanced races/beings in the history of Star Trek, it would've taken up half the episode.
Pretty clear these were prime suspects and others were either ruled out, not likely, or known to be not involved. And doubt it’s a comprehensive list. It’s more of a way to say “fans, we did our homework, don’t worry”.
So it’s the whale probe builders. They really don’t like us. Or maybe that’s why starships have Cetacean ops!!!!!?!
So it’s the whale probe builders. They really don’t like us. Or maybe that’s why starships have Cetacean ops!!!!!?!
Considering the end of the last episode, i guess the bluegills could be somehow involved. Either as the ones behind the DMA or as an ally/enemy of the creators 
There's also the Automated Repair Station from "DEAD STOP" (ENT).
It was obviously intelligent and processed advanced tech far beyond anything known back during Archer's time.
(it was also repairing itself at the end of the episode)
Over the intervening centuries it could have developed something akin to 'Godlike' powers.
(also, there have been a lot of ENTERPRISE references so far this season)
It was obviously intelligent and processed advanced tech far beyond anything known back during Archer's time.
(it was also repairing itself at the end of the episode)
Over the intervening centuries it could have developed something akin to 'Godlike' powers.
(also, there have been a lot of ENTERPRISE references so far this season)
How about a race from the MU?
Well, we know the Dominion is being regularly monitored by Starfleet Command, as per a computer graphic in season 3. Presumably, that monitoring has provided sufficient enough evidence to rule the Founders out as suspects.
As per Kovich, contact between the Prime and Mirror Universes hasn't been possible since the 27th century.
The DMA turns out to be the travel vehicle for a microscopic life form. Invisible to the naked eye.
Missed this topic earlier and haven't seen the new episode yet.
What about the Synths from Picard? I don't think it'll be them, but they might qualify.
The Paxxons from TNG "Clues" might be advanced enough, and if they thought species in local space had become too advanced to hide from, they might try different methods. The Lactrans from TAS would be another, Excalbians too. If you include the Nacene, might as well include Douwd. Edo god maybe?
What about the Synths from Picard? I don't think it'll be them, but they might qualify.
The Paxxons from TNG "Clues" might be advanced enough, and if they thought species in local space had become too advanced to hide from, they might try different methods. The Lactrans from TAS would be another, Excalbians too. If you include the Nacene, might as well include Douwd. Edo god maybe?
Didn't catch that Dominion mention last season. Thanks.