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News Gil Gerard (1943-2025)

Our bubble of AM radio broadcasts is about 110 light years wide and expanding. Then you have shortwave, radar and the intense light from hundreds of nuclear detonations until the test ban after 1945. FM has about a 60 yr bubble.

If someone is paying attention, they know we're here.

Yeah but for the benefit of what I'm trying to write what distance should I park to get a clear signal of old Earth radio or TV
 
It was rebroadcast by TV networks all over the globe.

I know...but the implication, for me anyway, was that it was the original broadcast...which I watched.

Yeah but for the benefit of what I'm trying to write what distance should I park to get a clear signal of old Earth radio or TV

Our broadcasts were pretty powerful, 50,000, 100,000 watts. Megawattage radar. But...we have the inverse square law in effect since the signal left the WKRP transmitter and then swept past your ship four years later. That's a lot of lost power.

Im not a ham or shortwave guy. Educated wild-assed guesses are my superpower 😃

IF BG took place (Some believe there may yet be brothers of man... who even now fight to survive - somewhere beyond the heavens!) in 1978, then they're about ten light years away.

We now return to remembering GG? Sorry for the tangent.
 
Im not a ham or shortwave guy. Educated wild-assed guesses are my superpower 😃
Or kryptonite.

Astronomer Seth Shostak is quoted on this matter (source):
FM radio and television broadcasts also leak out into space, but they are weaker and couldn't be detected more than about one tenth of a light year away with present day human technology.
The farther the signal travels, the bigger the antenna needed to detect it in a way that would be comprehensible.

Aliens would have an easier time recognizing the artificial nature of high-powered radio telescope transmissions and radars than ABC programming, let alone WKRP.
 
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Trouble with the idea is that Galactic intercepts the Apollo 11 transmission. Then arrives at Earth around 1980 after several years as one of the main characters in Galactica 1980 is a grown up "Boxy", Apollo 11 was in 1969. If it was that many years for Galactica wondering around, means if was probably in the Sol System during the last episode of the first season, which was probably in the year 1969.
 
Trouble with the idea is that Galactic intercepts the Apollo 11 transmission. Then arrives at Earth around 1980 after several years as one of the main characters in Galactica 1980 is a grown up "Boxy", Apollo 11 was in 1969. If it was that many years for Galactica wondering around, means if was probably in the Sol System during the last episode of the first season, which was probably in the year 1969.

I don't want to start an off-topic distraction or debate, but I'll offer a post I wrote recently about this, for peoples' consideration. Maybe people disagree. Doesn't matter; YMMV.

In a universe with FTL, as BSG was, such conclusions about when events must take place are presumptive, and having canon declare otherwise need not be contradictory in-universe. They describe the signal they are picking up in terms of Galactica technobabble and not real world terms: a Gamma frequency signal that's probably intergalactic in their estimation, that could have been transmitted a hundred yahrens ago or more. Given that Gamma frequencies were being received when their scanner was set for long-range communications, and that they are not concluding that an intergalactic signal must have been travelling for millions of years (or even with absolute necessity just thousands), the reception of an FTL signal under their technology seems plausible enough. [transcript of TOS BSG S1E24] Maybe the signal fell into a wormhole, or maybe normal radio emissions result in FTL effects, unknown to us, that Galactica can detect as "Gamma frequencies."​
https://www.trekbbs.com/threads/str...r-one-kirk-sequel-series.319764/post-15316005
 
Also, this, and I'm calling it a day:
[...] broadcasting at frequencies above 100 MHz will traverse the ionosphere and continue into space. The earliest television signals have already reached several thousand star systems. However, the strength of TV signals at light-years' distance will be low, given the small gain of the transmitting antennas. For VHF broadcasts, the maximum effective radiated power is between 100 and 300 kilowatts, and for UHF is 5 megawatts. At 100 light-years, these will produce signals of flux density no more than 10' - 10-31 watts/m'-Hz, even in the very narrow parts of the band where the carriers are located. The best SETI experiments today are seven orders of magnitude too poor to be able to detect a comparable signal. And note that retrieving the video components of a TV broadcast would require 10* greater antenna collecting area than required to find the carriers.
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In other words, to assume that leakage automatically generates a "reply from Earth" to any SETI signal we might receive is unrealistic. Consequently, it's useful to seriously consider the general nature of signals intended for deliberate communication between star systems, as these might (1) elucidate the construction of any future replies to extraterrestrial transmissions, and (2) help to gauge what sort of signals our SETI experiments might discover. In this paper, we consider some realistic limits on information content that can be easily sent across interstellar distances via light or radio, and suggest what might be reasonable signaling strategies.
 
Not sure there's ever been a season of TV so terrible that had such a wonderful episode in it.

How about season 8 of 24 when Jack Bauer goes on his revenge rampage?

The only thing good about Dexter season 6 was Brother Sam but that wasn't one episode.
 
How about season 8 of 24 when Jack Bauer goes on his revenge rampage?

You mean they made 8 seasons of that...... Did they lose the gimmick of it being filmed in 24 hours, remember the very first series when they made this huge song and dance about how they filmed it all in 24 hours and you were meant to watch it like that.

I gave up after the first season because I figured they'd drop the gimmick anyway and too many things happened in the first series that just seemed too convenient
 
You mean they made 8 seasons of that...... Did they lose the gimmick of it being filmed in 24 hours, remember the very first series when they made this huge song and dance about how they filmed it all in 24 hours and you were meant to watch it like that.

I gave up after the first season because I figured they'd drop the gimmick anyway and too many things happened in the first series that just seemed too convenient

The 24 episodes ended up being a hindrance in later seasons because they never had enough material for 24 episodes. A lot of supporting characters with B-plots involving personal issues that just brought the show to a halt.

Also, everywhere the characters had to drive to was only 10 minutes away. And the number of times there were snipers or moles just got old.
 
The 24 episodes ended up being a hindrance in later seasons because they never had enough material for 24 episodes. A lot of supporting characters with B-plots involving personal issues that just brought the show to a halt.

Also, everywhere the characters had to drive to was only 10 minutes away. And the number of times there were snipers or moles just got old.

I mean for the very first series it was a unique gimmick but little else. I did watch that one and that's the only one I watched but I did it in a normal manner 1 episode per every 2nd day, once was enough
 
I mean for the very first series it was a unique gimmick but little else. I did watch that one and that's the only one I watched but I did it in a normal manner 1 episode per every 2nd day, once was enough

Season 1, they had a tight 13 episodes in case they got canceled. You can sort of tell they didn't have the next 11 episodes planned out.

I think it might've been better if they had gone with the anthology idea. Same actors in new roles and new settings. And then after a few seasons, surprise, we're doing a season 2 of a previous season!
 
Season 1, they had a tight 13 episodes in case they got canceled. You can sort of tell they didn't have the next 11 episodes planned out.

I think it might've been better if they had gone with the anthology idea. Same actors in new roles and new settings. And then after a few seasons, surprise, we're doing a season 2 of a previous season!

Totally agree. CTU must have been a terrible organisation. They had moles all the time
 
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