Ghostbusters 2016: Talk about the movie(s).
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I remember during the sony leak that they planned aPics of Mattel's figures from Toy Fair. The main 4 plus a few ghosts.
Does this mean Stay-Puft is actually going to be in the movie somehow, or is it just a throwback they're tossing into the toy line? (ETA: Ok, apparently Stay Puft's inclusion has been rumored for a while now already. So I guess this is conformation) Also, interesting having a ghost that looks like the one in the logo (Takes me back to the Real Ghostbusters intro). My guess, it's what they base their logo on in the first place.
baby stay puff
probably so, will be something like Gozer and then I imagine we might get some other form after like Stay Puff. The logo Ghost looks interesting. It would be cool to see him finally get some screen time. Maybe it's the origin of the sign.
As in
a mini-marshmallow?
hot chocolate. Yum.
The Toy Fair figures match the prototype pictures we saw earlier for the most part but I'm not crazy about the Kate McKinnon one. She's gone from a dirty blonde with goggles to an unadorned bleach blonde. Looks like they picked up a little makeup too.
Good a place to put this as any, but did anyone notice that the world did *not* end on Valentine's Day as predicted in GB2?
Although it was the inception date of Pris from Blade Runner.
Good a place to put this as any, but did anyone notice that the world did *not* end on Valentine's Day as predicted in GB2?
Holy crap. Only now am I realizing that she was roofied. Before I thought she was just slightly deranged (and the actress' delivery was perfectly off-kilter), but geeze, that's serious.
Keep in mind the "as I told my husband" part. I think the screenwriters' intent was that she cheated on her husband with a guy who bought her a drink at a bar, and that she made up the story of alien abduction as an excuse for her infidelity, and then stuck with her story until it snowballed to the point that she was talking about it on TV. After all, her account indicates that she remembers following the "alien" to his room and conversing with him there, which would probably not be the case if he'd drugged her in the bar.
Could be, but the things that stick out to me the most are the drink, the mind control, and then forcing her back to his room, which all creates that haziness. And then her delivery is so off that she could've been dazed and hazy throughout the whole incident, which is common in roofie/sedative testimonies.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drug_facilitated_sexual_assault#Victims
All of which to me is consistent with her story.
I'm not denying that I could be overreading it, but still, it strikes a bit close to that reality for me, especially with greater awareness of the dangers of roofies these days than in the 80s.
Sure, but I don't think that's what the writers had in mind. It's just a case where a joke written in a time when people were less aware of such things was unintentionally resonant with the reality.
After all, the character was not meant to be sympathetic. She was one of the parade of charlatans and delusional types that Venkman featured on his show, because that's the level he'd sunk to with the collapse of the ghostbusting industry. And Venkman was implicitly mocking her and his other guests on the show, letting them make fools of themselves while he gave sly looks to the camera. So I think it makes more narrative sense if she was meant to be a hypocrite, an unfaithful wife who came up with an absurd excuse and maybe even talked herself into believing it. If she had been meant to be a genuine victim, it would've been a far crueler joke by the screenwriters. I wouldn't put it past '80s movies to be capable of insensitivity about sexual assault humor, but I'd prefer to give Murray, Aykroyd, and Ramis the benefit of the doubt in this case.
Oh, I don't think the writers had bad intentions; it's a minor role in a lighthearted comic scene, after all. But a cruel joke by the screenwriters doesn't need the realization that it could be a cruel joke in the first place (i.e. any time any one of us accidentally goes too far with a joke, which is usually an honest mistake; or hell, all of Twilight, for that matter). But even today, it's still easy to make jokes about roofies or removing consent without proper awareness of what those things truly do to a person, especially since we live in a rape culture that still casts doubt on the victim first, albeit less so than 30 years ago.
I don't know, even as a kid, I thought she wasn't a hypocrite, just someone who sincerely believed her own story but was just too mental and foolish to realize that it was crazy. But as an adult, now i'm aware of the unfortunately common problem of victims believing their own stories, i.e. placing themselves to blame, or that such an outlandish story to begin with is less shameful to bear than being a victim in the first place.
To reiterate, and if you know my posts well, I really can look too deeply into things, yeah. But now her scene just doesn't sit well with me. I'll just stick with Ben Cafferty's now-disproven prediction.
Sure, that's exactly the problem with the joke -- that it plays into the cultural tendency to dismiss women's claims of coercion as false. But that's just why I don't think the writers of the joke intended the character to have been genuinely victimized or drugged.
I always got the impression that she had an affair and tried to claim it was an alien who tricked her. That's why her tone of voice changes. Even at the time it was written, that's an awfully dark joke for a fairly upbeat movie.
I don't think it was an affair so much as a one-night stand.
The thing about the infidelity, and I realize there's no time in the movie to explain this, is that it'd be very odd for anyone to tell their spouse about infidelity to begin with in such a way to begin with. Then again, *she's* odd, obviously.
Husband: How was your trip?
Wife: Honey, I went to the Holiday Inn in Paramus and this man...
Husband: WHAT?!
Wife: Uh, was really an alien and he drugged me and told me about the end of the world. That's it!
Husband: Well, then you need to go on TV!
The reason to start telling in the first place is just off. It's clearly not a confession, after all. Telling your husband that you met a man over drinks and went up to his room seems too detailed to try and dovetail into an outlandishly foolish story. Though I don't blame Peter's producer for getting her on TV, since the point was made that the show had to scrape the bottom of the barrel for guests.
Husband: How was your trip?
Wife: Honey, I went to the Holiday Inn in Paramus and this man...
Husband: WHAT?!
Wife: Uh, was really an alien and he drugged me and told me about the end of the world. That's it!
Husband: Well, then you need to go on TV!
The reason to start telling in the first place is just off. It's clearly not a confession, after all. Telling your husband that you met a man over drinks and went up to his room seems too detailed to try and dovetail into an outlandishly foolish story. Though I don't blame Peter's producer for getting her on TV, since the point was made that the show had to scrape the bottom of the barrel for guests.
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