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Getting a bollywood actor to play Khan in a future star trek movie

But Joachim wasn't named by Khan, was he? And he isn't his "son" either.

Okay, okay, I know I'm being literal. What the heck. I need my lunch :p
 
As I mentioned before -- the last time a couple of months ago that we went through this "Cumberbatch is Khan" stuff -- I see no reason why Khan is necessarily of Indian (or even Sikh) descent.

All we know about Khan's ethnicity is an almost throw-away line by McGivers. I think that Khan could just as easily be a British national who has strong ties to India, just like a lot of British nationals do, due to the close colonial ties the English empire once had with India.

Khan (which may not even be his given birth name) could simply be someone who grew up in the Indian culture, and identifies himself more with that Indian culture, rather than being of Indian (or Sikh) ethnicity.

In this is the case, Khan's reason for identifying with Indian culture rather than the "western" culture of his parents may also play part in why he was hell-bent on world domination.
 
Do we actually know the chiildhood of the Augments? Is it possible they were Test Tube babies and not raised in Families, but, instead were raised in a Training camp to be Supersoldiers? I don't recall knowing about their childhoods? Could it be, they just created a bunch of Augments to raise as Super Soldiers, and they went down the line, tossing out names without regards to ethnicity of their Gene donors? "This one will be Khan, we'll name this one Benjamin, this one Shiela, this one Bertha..."
 
As I mentioned before -- the last time a couple of months ago that we went through this "Cumberbatch is Khan" stuff -- I see no reason why Khan is necessarily of Indian (or even Sikh) descent.

All we know about Khan's ethnicity is an almost throw-away line by McGivers. I think that Khan could just as easily be a British national who has strong ties to India, just like a lot of British nationals do, due to the close colonial ties the English empire once had with India.

Khan (which may not even be his given birth name) could simply be someone who grew up in the Indian culture, and identifies himself more with that Indian culture, rather than being of Indian (or Sikh) ethnicity.

In this is the case, Khan's reason for identifying with Indian culture rather than the "western" culture of his parents may also play part in why he was hell-bent on world domination.

Spock also concurred with McGivers (albeit, in a different scene). The thing is you're right in that both "Khan" and "Singh" could be "titles" and not necessarily surnames. I mean, almost all Sikh men have "Singh" as a last name and half the population of Baluchistan carries the name "Khan". :lol:

Plus, "Noonien" is not really an "Indian/Pakistani/Afghani" name. Don't quote me on that, however.

For all we know (and I'm inclined toward this more than anything else), JJ is taking a massive piss out of the fandom and loving it ;)
 
Could it be, they just created a bunch of Augments to raise as Super Soldiers, and they went down the line, tossing out names without regards to ethnicity of their Gene donors? "This one will be Khan, we'll name this one Benjamin, this one Shiela, this one Bertha..."

Yeah, but Shatner's Kirk yelling BERTHAAAAAAAAAAAAA! in the Genesis Cave just doesn't have the same "punch".
 
As I mentioned before -- the last time a couple of months ago that we went through this "Cumberbatch is Khan" stuff -- I see no reason why Khan is necessarily of Indian (or even Sikh) descent.

All we know about Khan's ethnicity is an almost throw-away line by McGivers. I think that Khan could just as easily be a British national who has strong ties to India, just like a lot of British nationals do, due to the close colonial ties the English empire once had with India.

Khan (which may not even be his given birth name) could simply be someone who grew up in the Indian culture, and identifies himself more with that Indian culture, rather than being of Indian (or Sikh) ethnicity.

In this is the case, Khan's reason for identifying with Indian culture rather than the "western" culture of his parents may also play part in why he was hell-bent on world domination.

I have less a problem with it from a Trek point of view than from the real-world social impact of the move. Whatever the excuse, it's basically an opportunity wasted to make cinema more diverse. I agree that there has to be someone in Bollywood with the talent and charisma and physicality to crossover to a Hollywood action role (the fact that it even is an action movie much more than it is a sci-fi movie, or even space opera is another issue).

I mean this has been a trend, especially lately, to whitewash cinema with movies like the Akira reboot and Avatar. Cracked put it pretty nicely here.
 
Let's face it. TOS hired Montalban to play an Indian dude. They also hired a ton of other actors to play Russians, Japanese, Vulcans (yeah) and other characters.

It was the 60s. Nobody knew what an Indian was supposed to look or sound like.

I would hope people are a little more hip nowadays.
QFT

You know who might make a good Khan if he bulked up?

Siddig El Fadil...he already played an Augment.
 
QFT

You know who might make a good Khan if he bulked up?

Siddig El Fadil...he already played an Augment.


Siddig El Fadil is 46 years old now. i don't know whether he is willing or even able to bulk up for the role of Khan, An actor who is in his late 30s or early 40s is more suitable to play Khan. Khan is genetically engineered which means he does not age like the way we do. He is older than he looks but far stronger than the average human.

Benedict Cumberbatch is 35 years old and Hrithik Roshan is 38 years old. They are more suitable as they can bulk up if needed and make up can be applied to them to slightly age them so that they can look like a tyrant of humanity of the pre warp era.
 
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If, in the future, JJ decides to have a Khan, then a Bollywood actor is certainly something that should be entertained when casting. Naveen Andrews is not a bad choice, but there a couple of the people above who 'look' the role. I like this guy: Hrithik Roshan

http://www.mid-day.com/entertainment...per.htm?zcc=rl. It would be interesting to hear what he would sound like.
I think JJ "Lost" Abrams already decided that white is the new Indian. :guffaw:
 
If, in the future, JJ decides to have a Khan, then a Bollywood actor is certainly something that should be entertained when casting. Naveen Andrews is not a bad choice, but there a couple of the people above who 'look' the role. I like this guy: Hrithik Roshan

http://www.mid-day.com/entertainment...per.htm?zcc=rl. It would be interesting to hear what he would sound like.
I think JJ "Lost" Abrams already decided that white is the new Indian. :guffaw:

:lol:
 
Do we actually know the chiildhood of the Augments? Is it possible they were Test Tube babies and not raised in Families, but, instead were raised in a Training camp to be Supersoldiers? I don't recall knowing about their childhoods? Could it be, they just created a bunch of Augments to raise as Super Soldiers, and they went down the line, tossing out names without regards to ethnicity of their Gene donors? "This one will be Khan, we'll name this one Benjamin, this one Shiela, this one Bertha..."

This would seem obvious, I could care less if they white wash the cast most of the time, as it's mostly white folk watching it. Just as Spaceship yamoto had an all japanese cast etc.

My only problem is it seems like their not gonna span star trek the brand into asia, which could be a huge mistake.
 
I don't follow Bollywood, so I don't know the names or faces, but Hrithik Roshan, John Abraham or Shahrukh Khan (he even has the right sir name) seem like great choices to play our beloved Khan Noonien Singh.

Roshan has almost perfect features (eyes, skin, bone structure) and I can easily see him being the product of experiments to create the perfect "human".

Khan has that brilliant tactician look in his eyes. He seems like he's always calculating his next move. This fit's the superior intellect of Khan (the Star Trek one).

Abraham seems to have a mix of both the superior genetics and intellect.

Of course all of them need to pack on a good 20-30 pounds (like Tom Hardy in Warrior), before I'll buy them as supermen. But any of them would be good picks, providing they can act the part.
 
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