get off my BRIDGE!!!

[RobertScorpio]

We've had several crews on the various STAR TREK TVshows/movies. Is there one character, doesn't have to be a regular, but had an official function on the bridge, at one of the posts, who you think just didn't belong there? And why?

Robert Xaiver Scorpio

 

[T.D. Possum]

Troi. I never bought into the idea that a Starfleet captain needed a headshrinker type to hang out on the bridge at all times.

 

[kes7]

I can't believe I'm gong to be the first to say "Wesley Crusher."

"Acting Ensign?" What a slap in the face to all the ACTUAL ensigns who worked hard to graduate the Academy and EARN a commission.

 

[RobertScorpio]

I'm going with Troi too. Its obvious why she was there (eye candy) but, for me, it was silly most of the time even having her there.

And a couple times Odo was shown at a post in ops...why?

Rob

 

[Green Shirt]

Troi. I never bought into the idea that a Starfleet captain needed a headshrinker type to hang out on the bridge at all times.

"He's hiding something." was always valuable information for Picard.

 

[Pemmer Harge]

I'm still not sure why Sisko took the Defiant into battle several times with Ezri manning one of the stations on the bridge. You'd think she'd be more useful back on DS9 talking to shell-shocked personnel.

 

[RyuRoots]

I'm still not sure why Sisko took the Defiant into battle several times with Ezri manning one of the stations on the bridge. You'd think she'd be more useful back on DS9 talking to shell-shocked personnel.

The Defiant's always been kinda weird like that. Jadzia, being the science officer of the station, is naturally its pilot and backup Captain (when Worf is unavailable, anyway). The real reason is that they just want to put their mains on the ship.

 

[Withers]

Troi was pretty silly. Garak and Odo certainly never belonged on the bridge of the Defiant (I've heard the rationalizations, and as a hardcore Niner, I don't buy 'em.) Ezri, I guess, can be excused by the fact that she's 300 years old and could probably Captain the Defiant if she needed to... but I agree, her place was on the station. Wesley Crusher was on the "wtf are you doing here side as well." Kira takes over in place of Worf once and she's almost always on the bridge. She even has command codes for it for some reason. But my biggest problem with a person who didn't belong on the bridge of a starship was friggen' Nog.

Here we've got a cadet manning what has to be, given Defiant's limited number of bridge stations, an important position. You're telling there were no ensigns on DS9 who deserved the position more than Nog? What was he doing there? They even went so far as to send him on a mission with the rest of the senior crew in a Dominion Attack Ship. What the hell? He might just as well have gone into the academy as a Lt. Commander by the way he was treated. Aside from "engineering skill" he was never really shown to be anything but a Starfleet "yes man" anyway. So why?


-Withers-​

 

[RegFan]

I agree that Troi is the most useless person on the bridge. I don't remember a single time when something she said on the bridge was actually useful. The only time she said something useful somewhere else that I can think off the top of my head is in the beginning of Gambit ("He's telling the truth").

 

[RobertScorpio]

I agree that Troi is the most useless person on the bridge. I don't remember a single time when something she said on the bridge was actually useful. The only time she said something useful somewhere else that I can think off the top of my head is in the beginning of Gambit ("He's telling the truth").

..and the one time she takes over? She crashes the ship!!

Rob

 

[sbk1234]

This is going to be one Hell of a redundant thread. Troi and Wesley, of course. I can almost buy Troi on the bridge at some times, but just like Crusher spent most of her time in sickbay, she should have been in the councelor's office. I know, it took a few years until they built it, but they could have done something.

As for Wesley, it would have gone far towards not having most people hate him if he was stationed in engineering, and could be simply one of a team working down there, with plenty of experienced people looking over his shoulder. It would have looked like much more of an educational position, and would have been more believable.
But they never asked me.

 

[DevilEyes]

Ezri, I guess, can be excused by the fact that she's 300 years old and could probably Captain the Defiant if she needed to... but I agree, her place was on the station.
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It makes perfect sense for Ezri to be there, she has memories and knowledge of two people who were starship pilots (Torias and Jadzia), including the one who had recently commanded the Defiant.

The Defiant's always been kinda weird like that. Jadzia, being the science officer of the station, is naturally its pilot...

See above. Dax used to be a pilot.

On a related note, the most "WTF?" person on away missions and senior staff meetings was Neelix.

 

[Admiral Shran]

I can understand the following things....

Odo sometimes having a post in Ops - He was the station's chief of security after all, a pretty important position.

Kira being on the bridge of the Defiant and even commanding it when Worf wasn't available - She's the first officer of the station, so seniority would be in effect. Also, if she's who Sisko chooses as his First Officer for the Defiant, that means she is the First Officer.

Ezri being a Defiant bridge officer - She does have 300 years of experience. She might be a counselor, but that's not necessarily the only thing she's qualified for now that she's a joined Trill.

Garak on the Defiant's bridge - This one stretches it, but he does have valuable skills that can be useful for almost any mission. Again, if Sisko wants him there, I can buy it.

Nog on the Defiant's bridge - Again, I can buy his presence by the fact that Sisko chose him to be there. However, it would have been better if they waited until he was made an actual ensign. The idea of a cadet having that important of a role is a little hard to accept.

What I can't understand are the following things....

Wesley Crusher - Why was this kid given such an important role on the freaking flagship of the Federation? As stated above, it would have been better if he was assigned to the Engineering Department. That is, supposedly, where his strengths were supposed to be. The Traveler said he was "a Mozart of Engineering." So, why was he flying the ship?

Neelix - Aside for his sugary-insulin shot inducing-sweet view of life, what useful skills did he bring to the table? Almost all of Janeway's other Senior Staff members had some valuable set of skills to contribute. Kim was good at operations. Paris was a good pilot. The Doctor was, well, a doctor. Torres was a great engineer. Tuvok was an excellent Security Officer. Seven had a towering intellect, and was great at Astrometics. Neelix was - a cook.

Chakotay - Again, what did he bring to the table? He wasn't a particularly good leader. He often simply deferred to whatever Janeway decided. There are some exceptions, but there're few and far between. If anything, he was simply a yes-man for Janeway; more so than Nog was for Sisko.

 

[CorporalClegg]

Troi was pretty silly. Garak and Odo certainly never belonged on the bridge of the Defiant (I've heard the rationalizations, and as a hardcore Niner, I don't buy 'em.) Ezri, I guess, can be excused by the fact that she's 300 years old and could probably Captain the Defiant if she needed to... but I agree, her place was on the station. Wesley Crusher was on the "wtf are you doing here side as well." Kira takes over in place of Worf once and she's almost always on the bridge. She even has command codes for it for some reason. But my biggest problem with a person who didn't belong on the bridge of a starship was friggen' Nog.

Here we've got a cadet manning what has to be, given Defiant's limited number of bridge stations, an important position. You're telling there were no ensigns on DS9 who deserved the position more than Nog? What was he doing there? They even went so far as to send him on a mission with the rest of the senior crew in a Dominion Attack Ship. What the hell? He might just as well have gone into the academy as a Lt. Commander by the way he was treated. Aside from "engineering skill" he was never really shown to be anything but a Starfleet "yes man" anyway. So why?


-Withers-​

Please do not center your entire post. It's distracting and difficult to read.

AFA Nog, it makes perfect sense. His cadet field training is sort of like an apprenticeship. His sponsor (Sisko) is like his master; where he goes, Nog goes.

The one I never understood was Chekov. What did he do anyway? The whole idea of a navigator is sort of redundant. In fact, pretty much everything he ever did seemed redundant. They have to find more and more creative things for him to do in the films just so he could appear to be involved.

 

[Withers]

Nog on the Defiant's bridge - Again, I can buy his presence by the fact that Sisko chose him to be there. However, it would have been better if they waited until he was made an actual ensign. The idea of a cadet having that important of a role is a little hard to accept.

Even once he had been made an ensign... it just seems like a slight to all of the other commissioned officers who had to be somewhere on the Defiant (I mean... they couldn't all have been crewman right?)

AFA Nog, it makes perfect sense. His cadet field training is sort of like an apprenticeship. His sponsor (Sisko) is like his master; where he goes, Nog goes.

Well... okay, I mean that makes sense I guess... but then doesn't that mean if you get in good with a Captain you can essentially be elevated beyond reasonability? Had Jake joined Starfleet could he have given him a seat on the bridge and occasional turns at the helm?
(Sorry about the centering. It bothers some people. It doesn't others.)


-Withers-​

 

[T'Girl]

"Acting Ensign?" What a slap in the face to all the ACTUAL ensigns who worked hard to graduate the Academy and EARN a commission.

Brought to mind Kirk in the last movie, who is ordered off the bridge of the Enterprise by two different captain, one of whom all but had him spaced.

Commissioner Ferris from The Galileo Seven, Kirk should have shown this political wennie to the turbolift.

 

[Nick086]

What were the writers thinking when they were creating Wesley Crusher? His character would of been likable if he were just an average teenager. His rank aboard the Enterprise is a slap in the face to all of the Ensign aboard ship from 1988-1990. There really wasn't need for a counselor to be on the bridge or in fact a senior officer. Did Nog get any training prior to his position on the Defiant?

 

[RoJoHen]

I can't believe I'm gong to be the first to say "Wesley Crusher."

You can't believe it? You're only the second person to reply to the thread!

 

[Timewalker]

Chakotay - Again, what did he bring to the table? He wasn't a particularly good leader. He often simply deferred to whatever Janeway decided. There are some exceptions, but there're few and far between. If anything, he was simply a yes-man for Janeway; more so than Nog was for Sisko.

He was there to tell Angry Warrior parables to Janeway instead of coming right out and saying what was on his mind.

The one I never understood was Chekov. What did he do anyway? The whole idea of a navigator is sort of redundant. In fact, pretty much everything he ever did seemed redundant. They have to find more and more creative things for him to do in the films just so he could appear to be involved.

Hey, Uhura couldn't do ALL the screaming!

(Sorry about the centering. It bothers some people. It doesn't others.)


-Withers-​

It's REALLY ANNOYING. I tend to skip over your posts because of it.

 

[Withers]

It's REALLY ANNOYING. I tend to skip over your posts because of it.

I have a quote that says otherwise.



-Withers-​