Generations was ok

[john titor]

Its a fairly decent opening for the TNG crew. Ok the Nexus was a hokey idea, but its not impossible for it to exist considering the vastness and weirdness of the universe. Its a metaphysical concept made manifest. I never really got the outcry over Kirks death scene, he died saving the enterprise, went to the nexus (heaven) and was called back to the 24th century where he died again, fighting alongside Picard. What better way to go out than defending the galaxy while fighting alongside another legend?
Not that its a major thing. Thirdly it was hugely successful at the box office so in financial terms it was a +1 for the TNG crew. In addition Malcolm Mac Dowell put in a sterling performance and is perhaps one of the best trek villains. It was the only film which really felt like a TNG film, in the respect that it wasn't a tight knit action flick but a spacious film which had time for philosophy at the end when picard mentions...um...the nature of time.

First Contact was a success, the last two films were failures but consider this, both were made when the malaise was well set into the franchise, if anything TNG was a victim of this.

 

[spaceballone]

Its a fairly decent opening for the TNG crew. Ok the Nexus was a hokey idea, but its not impossible for it to exist considering the vastness and weirdness of the universe. Its a metaphysical concept made manifest. I never really got the outcry over Kirks death scene, he died saving the enterprise, went to the nexus (heaven) and was called back to the 24th century where he died again, fighting alongside Picard. What better way to go out than defending the galaxy while fighting alongside another legend?
Not that its a major thing. Thirdly it was hugely successful at the box office so in financial terms it was a +1 for the TNG crew. In addition Malcolm Mac Dowell put in a sterling performance and is perhaps one of the best trek villains. It was the only film which really felt like a TNG film, in the respect that it wasn't a tight knit action flick but a spacious film which had time for philosophy at the end when picard mentions...um...the nature of time.

First Contact was a success, the last two films were failures but consider this, both were made when the malaise was well set into the franchise, if anything TNG was a victim of this.

I actually like Generations alot. It's not perfect but I think it is an enjoyable film. I don't think it's one of the best films but it is not one of the worst either. I always liked Soran as a villain and despite some flaws I think the movie works well for the most part.
Insurrection was not a failure at the Box office though. While it did do a little less than expected it still made a decent profit at the box office. Nemesis is the only Star Trek film not to turn a profit on it's budget during its theatrical run.

 

[RoJoHen]

I always liked Generations. Granted, it came out when I was 9-years old, so I wasn't a huge movie snob. It's not perfect, but I really like it.

The two biggest complaints I see around here are 1) Kirk's death and 2) the Bird of Prey destroying the Enterprise.

I never understood the problem with Kirk's death. I thought it was very touching.

As for the Bird of Prey...yes, I know, it's a really crappy Klingon ship that shouldn't have been able to defeat the Enterprise. And yes, I know, Riker probably should have tried a little harder to blow it up. But honestly, I don't care about any of those things. If you suspend your disbelief for few minutes, I think it's actually a very exciting battle scene (re-used TUC footage notwithstanding).

 

[Phily B]

It was awful. Every single element of it was awful, I honestly can not think of one redeeming thing about it apart from how sexy the Ent-D looked on the big screen, with the big movie treatment.

 

[Peach Wookiee]

I was 14 when I saw Generations. I loved it. Still do.

 

[GalaxyX]

They killed Kirk. At the time I was 18 and my little bro was like 12? They made my little brother cry. My dad is a huge TOS fan and he looked at me with these eyes like "WTF?". They destroyed my favorite Starship because they didn't want to pay Andrew Probert royalties for the design.

Only movie worse is Nemesis.

 

[Praetor]

The "Kirk's death" idea was unnecessary, but done okay, IMO. The Enterprise-D's destruction was also unnecessary. Thematically, the movie was interesting. I enjoy it, but it could have been a lot better.

 

[GalaxyX]

They should have killed a major character every single movie then.

 

[Botany Bay]

It was awful. Every single element of it was awful, I honestly can not think of one redeeming thing about it apart from how sexy the Ent-D looked on the big screen, with the big movie treatment.

Yeah, I agree - the biggest wasted opportunity in Trek history, and the beginning of the studio complacency that would ruin the Trek movies.

 

[Praetor]

They should have killed a major character every single movie then.

Of course they should've. Cuz obviously that's what sells tickets.

 

[GalaxyX]

Of course they should've. Cuz obviously that's what sells tickets.

I would have done it like this:

TMP: Kill McCoy, so he goes out on a blaze of glory.
TWOK: Kill Kirk mano a mano with Khan.
TSFS: Would have been TSFK, except they don't find Kirk, and Spock dies.
TVH: The leftover senior staff has the same romp in 1980's SF, but Chekov dies in the Hospital due to no McCoy to save him.
TFF: Uhura dies when she does the fandance. She gets shot with one of those compressed air pebble guns.
TUC: Sulu dies in the Excelsior at the hands of Klang's cloaked Klingon ship.
GEN: Scotty dies saving Picard's ass, because Geordi wasn't a miracle worker like him.
FC: Picard dies in hand to hand combat with the Borg. Riker takes over the ship.
INS: Worf dies protecting the Ba'Ku
NEM: Data dies, Riker marries Deanna and then Deanna tragically dies at the hands of Shinzon.
nuTrek: Riker is the one that goes to the past and dies at the hands of Nero. The cycle starts all over again.

 

[shakov]

Generations was easily the best of the next generation era movies. The series sold it's soul with First Contact, and things went down hill from there. Generations had its issues, but at least the characters were still recognizable

 

[GeorgeKirk]

Even the guys who wrote this movie admit it's a turkey. They were given a big laundry list from the studio of things that had to be in it (Original series characters, Klingons, some kind of plot thread that ties the TOS and TNG characters together, story arcs for Picard and Data, and the destruction of the Enterprise-D) and they were forced to construct a story around that. They'd never written a film before, and they were also working on the TNG series finale at the same time. There was no way this movie could be anything other than a mess.

 

[Praetor]

Even the guys who wrote this movie admit it's a turkey. They were given a big laundry list from the studio of things that had to be in it (Original series characters, Klingons, some kind of plot thread that ties the TOS and TNG characters together, story arcs for Picard and Data, and the destruction of the Enterprise-D) and they were forced to construct a story around that. They'd never written a film before, and they were also working on the TNG series finale at the same time. There was no way this movie could be anything other than a mess.

Yep.

Of course they should've. Cuz obviously that's what sells tickets.

I would have done it like this:

TMP: Kill McCoy, so he goes out on a blaze of glory.
TWOK: Kill Kirk mano a mano with Khan.
TSFS: Would have been TSFK, except they don't find Kirk, and Spock dies.
TVH: The leftover senior staff has the same romp in 1980's SF, but Chekov dies in the Hospital due to no McCoy to save him.
TFF: Uhura dies when she does the fandance. She gets shot with one of those compressed air pebble guns.
TUC: Sulu dies in the Excelsior at the hands of Klang's cloaked Klingon ship.
GEN: Scotty dies saving Picard's ass, because Geordi wasn't a miracle worker like him.
FC: Picard dies in hand to hand combat with the Borg. Riker takes over the ship.
INS: Worf dies protecting the Ba'Ku
NEM: Data dies, Riker marries Deanna and then Deanna tragically dies at the hands of Shinzon.
nuTrek: Riker is the one that goes to the past and dies at the hands of Nero. The cycle starts all over again.

Why didn't you get to write them?

 

[Too Much Fun]

I would have done it like this:

TUC: Sulu dies in the Excelsior at the hands of Klang's cloaked Klingon

It's KANG, dammit!

GEN: Scotty dies saving Picard's ass, because Geordi wasn't a miracle worker like him.

INS: Worf dies protecting the Ba'Ku

And make a widow out of Jadzia?!? Shame on you for such a cruel and heinous suggestion.

NEM: Data dies, Riker marries Deanna and then Deanna tragically dies at the hands of Shinzon.
nuTrek: Riker is the one that goes to the past and dies at the hands of Nero. The cycle starts all over again.

Aside from those two nitpicks, I agree with the other post. You are hilarious and your post was more satisfying entertainment than Generations, Insurrection, and Nemesis combined.

 

[GalaxyX]

Why didn't you get to write them?

While by myself I probably wouldn't have been able to write better than TMP, TWOK and TUC I could have certainly grounded those movies to be more approachable and more fun.

I do however believe almost with certainty that I could have written a better TNG movie than ANY of the turds that came out, including FC, singlehandedly.

It's KANG, dammit!

Sorry lol, I'm ashamed, I just rewatched it just 2 weeks ago, I should have remembered. Someone else corrected me with the name Valeris and not Valerie

And make a widow out of Jadzia?!? Shame on you for such a cruel and heinous suggestion.

Bah! I had to endure watching Data my favorite character die. You too should suffer watching your favorite character die also, because Bermaga wanted to be "edgy and cool". Assholes.

Aside from those two nitpicks, I agree with the other post. You are hilarious and your post was more satisfying entertainment than Generations, Insurrection, and Nemesis combined

I'm not big into fan fiction, but maybe I should rewrite these just for the heck of it

 

[GalaxyX]

If they wanted to keep the same version of Generations, first they needed to keep Kirk alive. Second, they needed to do it like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blsYgnEgF6Y&feature=related

 

[new_mercury]

well it's better than Insurrection!

 

[Dream]

Too much talking. Not nearly enough action IMO.

 

[RandyS]

I like Generations alot. Kirk's death didn't bother me a bit (but all the various ressurection ideas in subsequent novels ever since are starting to get old), frankly, I was bothered more by the destruction of the Enterprise-D. It was, in my view the best design of all the Enterprise's we've seen. I heard Ron Moore and Brannon Braga's reasons for destroying the ship, and I completely disagree.

Other than that, Generations was the best of the TNG movies.