The Federation has allies that would come to their aid. The Terran Empire has subjects that are just itching for a chance to stab the Terrans in the back.
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The Federation has allies that would come to their aid. The Terran Empire has subjects that are just itching for a chance to stab the Terrans in the back.
Have seasons lost their meaning in space? Aside from holodeck environments and holiday celebrations defined by the traditions of same, I imagine all the seasons blend together.
They're on a space ship. There are no seasons unless the environmental controls creates them. I imagine it must be similar for sailors and modern day astronauts.
They create artificial day and night. It'd be interesting if you had climate controls in corridors modified to seem like moving between buildings.
Oh, I wish it could be Christmas every day....
Humanity has attempted to make itself less and less dependent on seasons starting from the stone age. Fire, lighting, later electric too, clothing, heating, probably animal husbrandry, all served to lessen our dependency. Now we are on the point that most vegetables and fruits can be bought all year round. Many of us already have little to do with seasons anymore except noticing it gets hotter or colder and day length is getting longer or shorter, while they're looking outside into the urban jungle from their houses or offices.
I'd say living in a completely artificial environment (for those that choose to) simply would be a few next steps down that line (whether you regret that or you advocate that).
I'd say living in a completely artificial environment (for those that choose to) simply would be a few next steps down that line (whether you regret that or you advocate that).
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KIRK: Well. But they've rejected all that and all that this technology provides. And they seek the primitive.
SPOCK: There are many who are uncomfortable with what we have created. It is almost a biological rebellion. A profound revulsion against the planned communities, the programming, the sterilised, artfully balanced atmospheres. They hunger for an Eden where spring comes.
SPOCK: There are many who are uncomfortable with what we have created. It is almost a biological rebellion. A profound revulsion against the planned communities, the programming, the sterilised, artfully balanced atmospheres. They hunger for an Eden where spring comes.
Even the Pilot female uniform tunics had that kind of collar. I wouldn't be surprised.
I was just thinking that it's a common misconception that Star Trek portrays a utopian vision of the future. Actually I think Star Trek portrays the unchecked consequences of the industrial revolution and the military-industrial complex.
Seemingly everything in Star Trek has to be commercially mass-produced to have value, like food replicators, phasers and tricorders, fuel sources and officer uniforms. Space exploration is controlled by star fleet (the military branch of the federation) and even without any monetary currency or capitalist economics, the militaristic expansion of humanity into space continues to propogate the industrial mass production of weaponry and automatic vehicles.
It shows a link between military expansionism and corporate productivity. Even with a surplus of necessary resources, the resources are not distributed fairly throughout the Alpha Quadrant of the Milky Way galaxy. Federation-linked politicians are elitist and political affairs typically only involve this elitist group instead of allowing for the fair representation of the people being governed.
How is it utopian? Personally I don't think that's the case, space exploration is just an idyllic theme.
Seemingly everything in Star Trek has to be commercially mass-produced to have value, like food replicators, phasers and tricorders, fuel sources and officer uniforms. Space exploration is controlled by star fleet (the military branch of the federation) and even without any monetary currency or capitalist economics, the militaristic expansion of humanity into space continues to propogate the industrial mass production of weaponry and automatic vehicles.
It shows a link between military expansionism and corporate productivity. Even with a surplus of necessary resources, the resources are not distributed fairly throughout the Alpha Quadrant of the Milky Way galaxy. Federation-linked politicians are elitist and political affairs typically only involve this elitist group instead of allowing for the fair representation of the people being governed.
How is it utopian? Personally I don't think that's the case, space exploration is just an idyllic theme.
This is incorrect. While Starfleet does explore space, it is not the only organization in the Federation that does so.
The SS Vico from TNG "Hero Worship" was a civilian starship, not Starfleet. This is an example of civilian space exploration.
I think this belongs in the controversial opinions thread!
Regarding uniform colors, if a crewman holds positions in two different departments, their uniform color should be the secondary color formed by both primary colors.
Wesley's 3 division color stripes make perfect sense for a generalist.
Wesley's 3 division color stripes make perfect sense for a generalist.
In that case, based on what I see in the shows, I'm all for unchecked consequences of the industrial revolution and the military-industrial complex.
Expansion? yes. Military? yes, sort of, they need a defense apparatus. But 'militaristic expansion'? I don't see much evidence of that.
Even a critical thinker who tried that tack, Mark Twain, quickly saw the error of his ways after deep and painstaking research (read: after a hot girl in a tight catsuit showing a lot of cleavage simply told him he was wrong).
Though they do like to push into neighbor's space in the name of "exploration".
^Or even non-neighbors.
Sometimes I wonder what would have happened had the Federation heeded the first Dominion warning, ceased all exploration in the Gamma Quadrant and stayed on their side of the wormhole. (Even though I suspect the Dominion still would have tried to take over the AQ sooner or later).
Sometimes I wonder what would have happened had the Federation heeded the first Dominion warning, ceased all exploration in the Gamma Quadrant and stayed on their side of the wormhole. (Even though I suspect the Dominion still would have tried to take over the AQ sooner or later).
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Sorry, bit of a pre-disposition to anti-industrialism here. There is an expression around my way that goes something like, "Nice (X), did you make it yourself?" It's something of a compliment to an article of clothing and also an insult to the recipient for consumerism and for wearing something that they hypothetically don't deserve to have. I don't personally subscribe to that notion, it's kind of a pro-slavery attitude, that consumers don't deserve to have it because they don't know how to make it. The subversion of logic behind it resonates anyway with much of modern technology. To be quite frank, it's one of the few common sayings in our language that's known to cause psychological trauma. Being "caught in the crossfire" in other words. Anyway, sorry for posting off-topic, I'll stopI think this belongs in the controversial opinions thread!
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