General Trek Questions and Observations

[Commander Troi]

Do you think a first time Trek viewer could watch the whole thing in chronological order -- Enterprise, The Cage, the first two seasons of Discovery, Strange New Worlds, Section 31 movie?, the original series, the animated series, the TOS movies, etc. -- and have it all make sense? They'd also get the callbacks and references in reverse, which could be trippy.

No. Honestly, I think it would just confuse a new viewer.

 

[JesterFace]

Do you think a first time Trek viewer could watch the whole thing in chronological order -- Enterprise, The Cage, the first two seasons of Discovery, Strange New Worlds, Section 31 movie?, the original series, the animated series, the TOS movies, etc. -- and have it all make sense? They'd also get the callbacks and references in reverse, which could be trippy.

Going with the order the series were made makes much more sense.
Going in chronological order might raise too many questions.

 

[Finn]

Depends on how much the viewer really cares

 

[rachelstellar]

A thread full of interesting observations and memes. Huh, I'm glad I found it.

 

[Mojochi]

Is it just me or do they do something weird with the interior Enterprise lighting on SNW that makes their eyes (especially Pike) always look teary or wet or something?

 

[Commander Troi]

Is it just me or do they do something weird with the interior Enterprise lighting on SNW that makes their eyes (especially Pike) always look teary or wet or something?

Maybe it's your tv?

 

[cooleddie74]

I'm just glad you can actually see their eyes in this show.

 

[The Rock]

Is it wrong that I laugh every time I watch the transporter accident scene in ST: TMP? I know it's a serious moment and meant to be taken seriously but the way the scene is done is weirdly funny to me. Maybe I have a sick sense of humor or something? I guess part of it is because after the new science officer dies in said accident it's as though no one really cares for the rest of the movie lol. It reminds me somewhat of this scene from the movie Addams Family Values:

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[Finn]

It was kinda over the top, an interesting new Vulcan officer we had never seen before, a character that could have gone on to appear many times, and even in the TNG era. But no, they had to have him die in that strange transporter accident in the next scene....

 

[Mojochi]

Maybe it's your tv?

I'm thinking not. It's definitely a production design "warm lighting" style type thing

I guess I'm the only one noticing it

It's just kind of jarring to me when it looks like Pike is always on the verge of tearing up lol. It doesn't ruin anything. I'm still enjoying the show actually. It's just part of the overall look, which I'm mostly liking.

 

[fireproof78]

Is it wrong that I laugh every time I watch the transporter accident scene in ST: TMP? I know it's a serious moment and meant to be taken seriously but the way the scene is done is weirdly funny to me. Maybe I have a sick sense of humor or something? I guess part of it is because after the new science officer dies in said accident it's as though no one really cares for the rest of the movie lol. It reminds me somewhat of this scene from the movie Addams Family Values:

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The scene is framed very poorly. It's meant to show danger but then moves to indifference.

I don't find it amusing but I can see how it would be.

To me, it's kind of like the reuse of a Voyager establishing shot for another Intrepid in DS9. Starfleet didn't mourn Voyager's loss long it seems.

 

[kkt]

They should have called "What you Leave Behind" the "Perma-Death Episode".

Usually, when a major character dies on Star Trek, they just bring them back a short time later. Spock is regenerated by the Genesis device, Tasha comes in from a new timeline, Dax comes back in a new body and basically does the same job as before, Weyoun gets cloned again, Culber gets... something to do with space mushrooms, Shaxx just comes back and no one explains how, and then there's Data's journey over multiple Picard seasons (no spoilers).

Contrastingly, when people go down in the last part of DS9, it's quite final. Even the apparently indestructible Weyoun is supposed to be permanently dead.

"What You Leave Behind" did leave the door open for Sisko to return. Granted, they haven't used it so far, and by now they'd need another actor...

 

[kkt]

Beginning with the scene from VOY where Quinn takes them to the big bang, continuing with the scene from AGT on ancient Earth as life was supposed to form...

Don't forget to fold in "All Our Yesterdays" ice age scenes from 5000 years before TOS was set.

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

I put in for Picard Day off as a religious holiday.

Stupid job said no.

Teh Sisko is more of a religious figure. Try him next time. The Bajorans must have a Prophets Day.

 

[Mojochi]

The way Duras calls days "Turns" gets on my nerves a little bit. That and the way the actor is struggling past his fake teeth to say it is rather obnoxious (Which works well with the character actually) But I mean, we get it dude. We all drive spaceships in this universe. I'm pretty sure we all know how planetary rotation works, & no one else is saying it like that. Just you, Bro.

 

[herofhyrule]

The scene is framed very poorly. It's meant to show danger but then moves to indifference.

I don't find it amusing but I can see how it would be.

To me, it's kind of like the reuse of a Voyager establishing shot for another Intrepid in DS9. Starfleet didn't mourn Voyager's loss long it seems.

The worst part is that just a few scenes later everyone's making fun of McCoy for being scared of the transporter, as if they didn't just watch it turn two people into sludge.

 

[herofhyrule]

I've just watched Beyond, and I realised that, since it's set during the Kelvinprise's five-year mission, if it were part of any other series it would just be a regular episode. Well, probably a two-parter. In in-universe terms, there are loads of other adventures that could have been shown onscreen. When the Kelvin crew finally return home to Earth, will the events of Beyond even be that important or will it be overshadowed by other, offscreen events (apart from the destruction of the Enterprise, obviously) ?

 

[at Quark's]

The worst part is that just a few scenes later everyone's making fun of McCoy for being scared of the transporter, as if they didn't just watch it turn two people into sludge.

The dumbest part was that it was already known the transporters weren't working (correctly) (Kirk asks Scotty why they aren't), and they were still beamed up a few minutes later - Scotty's warning to not use the transporter came only seconds too late. Now these people probably were working under high pressure to ready the Enterprise, but it still feels someone really fouled up there.

 

[herofhyrule]

The dumbest part was that it was already known the transporters weren't working (correctly) (Kirk asks Scotty why they aren't), and they were still beamed up a few minutes later - Scotty's warning to not use the transporter came only seconds too late. Now these people probably were working under high pressure to ready the Enterprise, but it still feels someone really fouled up there.

Where's space OSHA when you need them?

 

[cooleddie74]

Given how many ladders and walkways in Trek engine rooms have no rails and other protection for users I'd say OSHA was a victim of the Third World War and never reinstated.