General Trek Questions and Observations

[Oddish]

A missed opportunity, regarding TNG and Voyager... no one ever mentions Voyager's retracting nacelles, in the series. Even though that effect was actually a response to the TNG episode "Force of Nature", and the idea that warp travel damages subspace. It would have been nice if they could have actually mentioned that Voyager's variable geometry warp field allowed it to travel at high warp safely.

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

A missed opportunity, regarding TNG and Voyager... no one ever mentions Voyager's retracting nacelles, in the series. Even though that effect was actually a response to the TNG episode "Force of Nature", and the idea that warp travel damages subspace. It would have been nice if they could have actually mentioned that Voyager's variable geometry warp field allowed it to travel at high warp safely.

More importantly why was Voyager the ONLY ship to have this feature, Why couldn't they do that to the Enterprise E or any other class of ship?

 

[Oddish]

Maybe later ships were able to form a variable geometry field without needing to retract the nacelles. But they should have explained that.

 

[matthunter]

Retracting obviously doesn't mean the same thing to some, since Voyager's nacelles don't retract, they just change the angle. Retract would mean changing the distance from the hull - specifically, lessening it.

 

[shapeshifter]

A missed opportunity, regarding TNG and Voyager... no one ever mentions Voyager's retracting nacelles, in the series. Even though that effect was actually a response to the TNG episode "Force of Nature", and the idea that warp travel damages subspace. It would have been nice if they could have actually mentioned that Voyager's variable geometry warp field allowed it to travel at high warp safely.

Wait. They never explained it on the show, our thinking for why they move is just someone's headcanon?

Maybe later ships were able to form a variable geometry field without needing to retract the nacelles. But they should have explained that.

Wasn't the next ship we saw the E in FC? I remember thinking the shape of those nacelles might be the non-moving answer to the environmental damage.

 

[Oddish]

Wait. They never explained it on the show, our thinking for why they move is just someone's headcanon?

Not sure, actually. It seemed like common knowledge, but was never mentioned on any show that I was aware of.

 

[Richard S. Ta]

Not sure, actually. It seemed like common knowledge, but was never mentioned on any show that I was aware of.

I read on Memory Alpha that the whole moving nacelles thing was a very last minute request from Rick Berman. Whether or not he had the state of subspace in mind or just thought it would look cool I really couldn't say.

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

I read on Memory Alpha that the whole moving nacelles thing was a very last minute request from Rick Berman. Whether or not he had the state of subspace in mind or just thought it would look cool I really couldn't say.

Does that guy ever do things beyond "hey it should look cool" at all?

 

[cooleddie74]

We should all be glad Voyager didn't have giant boobs encased in a hull made from catsuit material.

 

[GNDN18]

We should all be glad Voyager didn't have giant boobs encased in a hull made from catsuit material.

Yeah, that would have been a battle beyond the stars.

 

[cooleddie74]

Hyperspace-capable uteri often are the biggest threats to enemy aliens.

 

[fireproof78]

Does that guy ever do things beyond "hey it should look cool" at all?

That's pretty standard executive style thinking.

Hyperspace-capable uteri often are the biggest threats to enemy aliens.

Especially the wandering kind.

Causes mass hysteria.

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

Mass hysteria and the collapse of society. Remember how people freak out when boobs show up on TV by accident

 

[Oddish]

In the "Non Sequitur" timeline, we find out that Tom Paris was kicked back to Earth and wound up a boozehound loser in Sandrine's Bar, and one does have to wonder... you think he ever met up with Nick Lacarno, who probably ended up the same way?

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

In the "Non Sequitur" timeline, we find out that Tom Paris was kicked back to Earth and wound up a boozehound loser in Sandrine's Bar, and one does have to wonder... you think he ever met up with Nick Lacarno, who probably ended up the same way?

Weren't they the same person haha? Or twins even

 

[gweeps]

In the "Non Sequitur" timeline, we find out that Tom Paris was kicked back to Earth and wound up a boozehound loser in Sandrine's Bar, and one does have to wonder... you think he ever met up with Nick Lacarno, who probably ended up the same way?

Probably.

I've come to really appreciate this episode. There's a Twilight Zoney feel to it.

I wish Harry hadn't been so gung ho to leave.

 

[Oddish]

Well, if they were the same person, then the answer to my question is obvious.

I wish Harry hadn't been so gung ho to leave.

One of Voyager's dumbest moments, and it had plenty. "Let's see, I'm on Earth, living with my gorgeous fiancee, my career is taking off, and drinking a fresh hot Vulcan mocha every morning. No more tin can 70,000 LY from home, no more replicator rations, no more high-pitched sonic showers, no more captain determined to keep me at ensign until the heat death of the universe... I think I'll spend the whole frickin' episode trying to get back!"

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

Well, if they were the same person, then the answer to my question is obvious.



One of Voyager's dumbest moments, and it had plenty. "Let's see, I'm on Earth, living with my gorgeous fiancee, my career is taking off, and drinking a fresh hot Vulcan mocha every morning. No more tin can 70,000 LY from home, no more replicator rations, no more high-pitched sonic showers, no more captain determined to keep me at ensign until the heat death of the universe... I think I'll spend the whole frickin' episode trying to get back!"

Can't argue with that Voyager was full of silly moments.

Don't forget the time Harry fell in love with an alien woman who looked suspiciously human and got an STD

 

[gweeps]

One of Voyager's dumbest moments, and it had plenty. "Let's see, I'm on Earth, living with my gorgeous fiancee, my career is taking off, and drinking a fresh hot Vulcan mocha every morning. No more tin can 70,000 LY from home, no more replicator rations, no more high-pitched sonic showers, no more captain determined to keep me at ensign until the heat death of the universe... I think I'll spend the whole frickin' episode trying to get back!"

If the writers were smart, they would've had that alien guy show up and tell him he couldn't stay.

 

[dupersuper]

Weren't they the same person haha? Or twins even

You joke, but they really almost have to be at this point. The male Soongs, the female Soongs, Kirk and his brother, Sela, Worf and his grandfather, Laris and her ancestor, possibly the Voyager time agent and his 21st century ancestor, the Cardassian from The Wounded was said in the novels to be Gul Dukat's cousin, the New Frontier novels implied Morgan Primus may be an ancestor of Number One, Christine Chapel and maybe even Lwaxana Troi, the guy who played Gowron voiced his familiar looking ancestor in Star Trek Online...identical distant relatives seems to be an established Star Trek fact at this point.

Or one of them is from the mirror universe...