That's a bit of an overkill, all you have to do is destroy the processing unit of the computer which should be n'tvery big. You don't even need an explosion just a massive overload that will melt it. Computers are usually more fragile than starships.
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That's a bit of an overkill, all you have to do is destroy the processing unit of the computer which should be n'tvery big. You don't even need an explosion just a massive overload that will melt it. Computers are usually more fragile than starships.
Sure, they can even get DNA from charred remains... which to me is the apex of stupidity so sure they should be able to retrieve computer memories from a vaporized ship...
Sure, they can even get DNA from charred remains... which to me is the apex of stupidity so sure they should be able to retrieve computer memories from a vaporized ship...
Two things. What is the nature of the storage, and how vaporized? If I heat magnetic disks to the point the disk loses magnetism, you are getting nothing back.It will cool in a totally random pattern based on the Earth's magnetic field.
How vaporized is vaporized depends on the method that Trek computers store data, I doubt it is magnetism. The quantum states of atoms is more likely. I would further opine that it is fairly robust. Data that can fall off if you bump the computer is a bad thing.
So how vaporized? Chunks of ship floating about, recovery easy. Random subatomic particles? Not so much, and a huge range in the middle.
Ensuring valuable intelligence doesn't fall in to the wrong hands would usually mandate a robust measure. Allow the Enterprise data to be compromised by Klingons would be extremely negligent.
That doesn't mean that you have to burn the village to save it. You must allow some thinking that will still do the work and leave the village almost undamaged.
In this instance it does. All the technological information could potentially be useful.
Well, then I suppose we'll have to agree to disagree.
Fair enough.
As far as "the processing unit shouldn't be very big" goes, the computer core of the NX-01 alone was three decks high, according to Tucker in Dead Stop. The Enterprise-D has THREE computer cores for redundancy, and the Master System Display shows one of these as 8-9 decks high.
Besides, it's not the processor you need to destroy, it's the storage.
Besides, it's not the processor you need to destroy, it's the storage.
That doesn't seem right though. Computers should be much smaller than that. It seems that it's been written by someone who lived back in the day when they hadn't learned to miniaturize yet.
Once you get to quantum level computing, you cannot physically get smaller. That one terabyte SSD is crude.
So once you get to as small as you can get, you need to get larger in order to get more. So the storage capacity of the E-D computer is greater than Earth currently has, all of it. It's bulkier than it needs to be for scalability. You can hot swap parts and add things easily. It holds the whole of the Federation Database. Everything from engineering to Auntie's cookies. All available at your request.
There's a lot of bullshit going around in Star Trek about that. Like Tuvok's son who can't send him his latest musical composition because it takes up too much space... Really!!! Unless that musical composition is a hologram of all the musicians playing it, I don't see how!!! Some of this seems to have been written by someone with the understanding of technology of a five-year-old.
... I couldn't find the SCE specific thread but is there a convo on why Dominion War fleet battles had mostly 100yr-old designs of Miranda's & Excelsior's ... and not one CG or ILM hard build of an Ambassador? All references tend to be relegated to non-canon novels for their whereabouts.
Which is mostly my bone to pick with late 90's DS9 production. *sigh*
Which is mostly my bone to pick with late 90's DS9 production. *sigh*
These essentially seem 'modem calls' over unprecedented distances and it would make some sense for that technology to be extremely limited at first. But in that case they should have played it consistently by not allowing any video or even audio communications between Voyager and Starfleet in the first place, and have all communication be just text messages of a limited length. Sending the EMH over would of course have been entirely out of the question (of course they'd probably still do it with the crap excuse that 'this is holographical data, different rules apply'). Had they done that, it could have been believable for that musical composition to take up too much space (of course still depending on how much information was contained in that composition message).
No, it's more about relatability for the audience.
Scotty reset the computer.
Scotty reset the computer.
Scotty can hack into a ship's security programs like no one.
Scotty can hack into a ship's security programs like no one.
And No One is very good at it!
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