Just rewatched Star Trek (2009). Wondered what Nero did all those years between 2233 and 2255. Sure, he probably spent some time in repairing the damage to his ship and to better prepare his 'mission' of revenge, but what else, to pass the boredom while waiting for Spock? 22 years is a long time after all. Did he study ancient Romulan dialects? Take up French knitting, aerobics, or fretwork?
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I do wish they had kept the Rura Penthe scenes in. But, that's still a part of my thinking around the film is that he was captured and waiting until Spock showed up.
Where's that movie?
It's been a while since I read that comic. Now that you mention it, the Borg angle sounds right.
Kor
The Borg refit was before, in ST Countdown.
In ST Nero, the Narada is damaged by the Kelvin ramming it, and the Klingons (led by Kor) capture it.
While imprisoned on Rura Penthe for 25 years, Nero loses half of his ear in a fight with an animal. Nero becomes obsessed with punishing Spock and destroying the Federation. The Klingons keep the crew alive because they are very good miners. Nero expands his telepathic abilities with smuggled drugs, and a fellow prisoner who's also a cartographer tries to figure out when Spock will appear. The Narada keeps defending itself against the Klingons, they can't access its systems. Nero and the remaining crew escape with a shuttle, but the Narada has entered a new course they can't override.
They arrive and meet V'Ger, who reached out and activated the ship. Nero recognizes it from an earlier mind meld with Spock (in Countdown, I think). Nero connects to V'Ger and uses its vast computational powers to find out when and where Spock will appear. They leave V'Ger and capture Spock. A Klingon armada arrives to destroy the Narada, but all 47 ships are defeated with no damage to the Narada. Rura Penthe sends a distress call about the massive attack (which Uhura picks up and Kirk hears about). Nero drops Spock off at Delta Vega, so he can witness the destruction of Vulcan just like he had to witness the destruction of Romulus.
In ST Nero, the Narada is damaged by the Kelvin ramming it, and the Klingons (led by Kor) capture it.
While imprisoned on Rura Penthe for 25 years, Nero loses half of his ear in a fight with an animal. Nero becomes obsessed with punishing Spock and destroying the Federation. The Klingons keep the crew alive because they are very good miners. Nero expands his telepathic abilities with smuggled drugs, and a fellow prisoner who's also a cartographer tries to figure out when Spock will appear. The Narada keeps defending itself against the Klingons, they can't access its systems. Nero and the remaining crew escape with a shuttle, but the Narada has entered a new course they can't override.
They arrive and meet V'Ger, who reached out and activated the ship. Nero recognizes it from an earlier mind meld with Spock (in Countdown, I think). Nero connects to V'Ger and uses its vast computational powers to find out when and where Spock will appear. They leave V'Ger and capture Spock. A Klingon armada arrives to destroy the Narada, but all 47 ships are defeated with no damage to the Narada. Rura Penthe sends a distress call about the massive attack (which Uhura picks up and Kirk hears about). Nero drops Spock off at Delta Vega, so he can witness the destruction of Vulcan just like he had to witness the destruction of Romulus.
Other than the V'ger connection it's an ok story.
Old Trek to New Trek and how history repeats itself.... but not necessarily in order.
"Yeah, well I saw it on a rerun." "What's a rerun?"
1969-1987: TOS enters syndication. Eventually the success of the reruns leads to a permanent return to television.
2011-2017: TOS, TNG, DS9, VOY, and ENT go into streaming on Netflix. Eventually the success of the reruns leads to a permanent return to television via CBS All Access and then Paramount+.
To the Movies!
1979-1991: After Star Trek ends on TV, it becomes a movie series, ahead of its return to television.
2009-2016: After Star Trek ends on TV again, it becomes another movie series, ahead of its return back to television.
Stuck in Limbo
1973-1977: There were several pitches for Star Trek movies before one got off the ground.
2016-Present: There have been several pitches for Star Trek movies before one gets off the ground again.
Mock Outrage!
1987: A new generation of Star Trek is hated.
2001: A not-so-new anymore generation of Star Trek is hated.
2009: A new generation of Star Trek (on the movie front) is hated.
2017: A new generation of Star Trek (on the TV front) is hated.
^ This last category repeats a lot. You'd think more people would pick up on the pattern by now. If I can, so can you...
"Yeah, well I saw it on a rerun." "What's a rerun?"
1969-1987: TOS enters syndication. Eventually the success of the reruns leads to a permanent return to television.
2011-2017: TOS, TNG, DS9, VOY, and ENT go into streaming on Netflix. Eventually the success of the reruns leads to a permanent return to television via CBS All Access and then Paramount+.
To the Movies!
1979-1991: After Star Trek ends on TV, it becomes a movie series, ahead of its return to television.
2009-2016: After Star Trek ends on TV again, it becomes another movie series, ahead of its return back to television.
Stuck in Limbo
1973-1977: There were several pitches for Star Trek movies before one got off the ground.
2016-Present: There have been several pitches for Star Trek movies before one gets off the ground again.
Mock Outrage!
1987: A new generation of Star Trek is hated.
2001: A not-so-new anymore generation of Star Trek is hated.
2009: A new generation of Star Trek (on the movie front) is hated.
2017: A new generation of Star Trek (on the TV front) is hated.
^ This last category repeats a lot. You'd think more people would pick up on the pattern by now. If I can, so can you...
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Watched a DS9 episode this morning where O'Brien was off the station visiting Earth, so Dax, Kira and Sisko are running around "filling in". I get the station is short staffed, but there have to be enough people in Operations to take up the slack, without the senior staff playing fix it man! It happens on the other shows too.
It is a TV thing, your are paying the Stars. You don't hire extras to do the jobs you are paying them to do. Things like this you really need to step back and take the meta explanation, not twist yourselves to pretzels.
But it was just "busy work" nothing really plot driven. They could have written characters doing just about anything else with out changing the plot.
I call it Hollyweird for a reason.
Does TNG take place in real time? Genuine question. Is there anything onscreen to say that 7 seasons = 7 years?
I believe they mention how many years have passed in several episodes and it more or less lines up as one year per season.
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On a large scale, yes. Though it's not precise to the episode. On Voyager, for instance, one episode took place over about three months.
Huh. I didn't know that. I suppose it makes sense in terms of how they age.
Again, interesting. I guessed DS9 and Voyager, maybe even Enterprise took place pretty much in real time. Which Voyager episode is it? I seem to recall The Year of Hell taking up (no surprise) about a year.
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