General Trek Questions and Observations

Discussion in 'General Trek Discussion' started by The Old Mixer, Nov 3, 2016.

  1. Discofan

    Discofan Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2018
    Location:
    Discofan
    Ok, but in that case the list must not be very long since "P" is already the 16th letter (so there's only ten letters left) and the list contains only FIVE names. That means that (statistically) the complete list must not be much longer than seven or eight names.
     
  2. Grendelsbayne

    Grendelsbayne Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Joined:
    Sep 24, 2013
    Location:
    Netherlands
    Right, but that's only one reason of several why you might use that format and this list was generated by inputting variables which means the format isn't designed for only short lists. If Saru put in different variables, the list could as easily have been 300 names or 1000, depending on what he asked for.
     
  3. Discofan

    Discofan Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2018
    Location:
    Discofan
    Maybe one of the parameters was "people who at some point made a gazelle speech." :rommie:

    That would explain how a screw up like Archer managed to get there...
     
  4. Laura Cynthia Chambers

    Laura Cynthia Chambers Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Joined:
    Jun 1, 2016
    Location:
    Mississauga
    Chances are, you're more likely to recognize a famous captain by his/her last name, not first name, too.
     
  5. IMC Headquarters

    IMC Headquarters Fleet Captain Premium Member

    Joined:
    May 26, 2018
    Location:
    Empire Falls, Maine
    Tracey, Ronald.

    Glaring omission.
     
  6. Lord Garth

    Lord Garth Vice Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    May 7, 2011
    Location:
    "Picard" Zoom Session July 18 @ 8:30-11:30pm EDT
    They should have a Star Trek series that takes place in the 47th Century. Why? Because why not turn an entire series into one big 47? You could have it take place on the Enterprise-TT, the 47th starship (at least since the Federation was founded) to bear the name.
     
    Tim Thomason and somebuddyx like this.
  7. somebuddyx

    somebuddyx Captain Captain

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2014
    Does anyone have exact dates or copies of any memos showing when any of the 1987-2005 Star Trek spinoffs were first thought up?
    Does anyone have a copy of the TNG episode Conspiracy original script when it was called "The Assassins"?
     
  8. Tim Thomason

    Tim Thomason Commodore Commodore

    Joined:
    May 27, 2009
    Location:
    Daniels' Illinois
    I am a huge supporter of the Enterprise-TT, for obvious reasons.
     
    Lord Garth likes this.
  9. Lord Garth

    Lord Garth Vice Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    May 7, 2011
    Location:
    "Picard" Zoom Session July 18 @ 8:30-11:30pm EDT
    When Morrow tells Scotty they need his experience on the new Excelsior, I just thought of something: "We need your wisdom on the new Excelsior." Bolding mine. That implies there was an old Excelsior.
     
    Last edited: Dec 1, 2019
  10. NCC-73515

    NCC-73515 Commodore Commodore

    Joined:
    Apr 18, 2019
    Location:
    California
    When the Golden Gate bridge was new, it was probably called the new bridge, even though it was the first
     
  11. Lord Garth

    Lord Garth Vice Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    May 7, 2011
    Location:
    "Picard" Zoom Session July 18 @ 8:30-11:30pm EDT
    Fair point.
     
  12. Tenacity

    Tenacity Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Joined:
    Jul 14, 2016
    It's doubtful it would have been called "the new golden gate bridge" though.
     
  13. The Old Mixer

    The Old Mixer Mih ssim, mih ssim, nam, daed si Xim. Moderator

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2002
    Location:
    Somewhere in Connecticut
    I see nothing wrong with Morrow's usage. Think of it as a short form of "that thar new-fangled Excelsior".
     
  14. NCC-73515

    NCC-73515 Commodore Commodore

    Joined:
    Apr 18, 2019
    Location:
    California
    Since there were Earth starships around for >100 years before, it could easily be that there was an earlier one.
     
  15. IMC Headquarters

    IMC Headquarters Fleet Captain Premium Member

    Joined:
    May 26, 2018
    Location:
    Empire Falls, Maine
    All the Starfleet men in The Search for Spock are dickweeds. Morrow, Esteban, Styles, Mr Excitement... Hard to label the biggest offender, but Morrow takes the cake with his lack of understanding of Vulcan mysticism. What the **** is he doing in Starfleet??? Admiral Forrest must be spinning in his grave...
     
  16. Grendelsbayne

    Grendelsbayne Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Joined:
    Sep 24, 2013
    Location:
    Netherlands
    Are there any humans not related to or friends with Spock who do actually understand anything about Vulcan mysticism? I'd be way more surprised to see anyone at Starfleet take all that Katra talk seriously for even a second.

    (But they are stupid for failing to recognize an easy solution to the conflict - just contact the Grissom and have them pick up Spock's body and ship it back to earth on a shuttle.)
     
  17. IMC Headquarters

    IMC Headquarters Fleet Captain Premium Member

    Joined:
    May 26, 2018
    Location:
    Empire Falls, Maine
    Captain Archer walked a mile in Surak's sandals. It would be horrendously shameful if his enlightenment didn't broaden Starfleet's cultural horizons all the way to Morrow's time.
     
  18. Tim Thomason

    Tim Thomason Commodore Commodore

    Joined:
    May 27, 2009
    Location:
    Daniels' Illinois
    The ship registered as NCC-1718 (registry seen in Court Martial) is listed as an earlier USS Excelsior in Franz Joseph's 1975 Star Fleet Technical Manual. Since the Manual was used for ship names and onscreen blueprints in Star Treks I, II, III, and VI, it is highly likely that the writer saw that there was an "old Excelsior", and specified the new ship as new to allay any confusion.
     
    Henoch and Lord Garth like this.
  19. WildManWizard

    WildManWizard Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

    Joined:
    Aug 24, 2017
    Location:
    Philadelphia, PA
    is it just me, or does Jonathan Frakes's Jaw look really long?

    yes, I know old age and all that. but that would excuse wrinkles and grey hair and droopy ear lobes and tips of noses, butI have never seen an older man get a jay leno jaw that didnt have one to begin with.
     
  20. The Old Mixer

    The Old Mixer Mih ssim, mih ssim, nam, daed si Xim. Moderator

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2002
    Location:
    Somewhere in Connecticut
    Is it just me, or does this belong in General Trek Questions and Observations?
     
    BillJ likes this.