Not in Discovery anyway. Maybe a few in Picard because of Covid.There's definitely still filler!
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PIC Season 2 had more filler than a pie bakery.
The last three or four episodes of S4 were rather padded out.
More filler than a hot dog factory! How much filler is that?
Truck spews 15,000 pounds of hot dog filler across Pennsylvania highway
That's a lot of filler!
Truck spews 15,000 pounds of hot dog filler across Pennsylvania highway
That's a lot of filler!
Probably my 3 favorites, not padded at all. Zero padding! They were dense with material and classic episodes.
"All In", "Rubicon", and "The Galactic Barrier" are very much padded out. Honestly, so is most of "...But To Connect". Others earlier in the season were pretty padded, too.
(I will agree that the last two episodes of the season were good. But 'zero padding'? That's about as accurate as saying Burnham never cries.)
Padding probably has different definitions for all of us. There's some technical reasons for it in older trek that Discovery certainly doesn't have but the only actual padding in any Trek show was when they changed the script in season 2 Picard and had to add extra time in the 21st century.
Galactic Barrier was a shorter episode with a specific goal, and imagine trekkies complaining about exploration and relating to scientific discovery from a Canon part of previous Trek.
Say what you want, Discovery doesn't have any filler.
I don't mind them taking a few episodes to reach Species 10-C, once they leave the galaxy. Why? Because I think they shouldn't have wrapped up everything with Species 10-C in one episode. That would've been too easy. It had to be hard and there had to be setbacks.
Plus Galactic Barrier was created by the producers as a significant event in Trek history. It's rare and noteworthy.
Definitely will have to agree to disagree, because EVERY season of DISCO has had filler. (Multiple fillers, in some cases.)
Riiiiiggggght... because getting past the galactic barrier had never been done before.
Oh, wait... TOS did it twice. And if you count the galaxy hopping in "Where No One Has Gone Before", so did TNG.
TOS did the Galactic Barrier crossing three times. So yeah, by 1968 in the franchise and 2268 in-universe this was already a "been there, done that" concept.
In "By Any Other Name", the Kelvans modified the engines. In "Where No One Has Gone Before", that was the Traveller's doing.
In "Where No Man Has Gone Before", you've got a point. I won't deny it. They left the galaxy at Warp Factor 1.
In "By Any Other Name", the Kelvans modified the engines. In "Where No One Has Gone Before", that was the Traveller's doing.
In "Where No Man Has Gone Before", you've got a point. I won't deny it. They left the galaxy at Warp Factor 1.
You forgot about "IS THERE IN TRUTH NO BEAUTY?"
And they didn't get past the barrier in "WHERE NO MAN GONE BEFORE"... they had to fall back.
But the rest, like the Doors, they broke on through to the other side.
Keeping telling yourself that and you might eventually believe it.
Shit. You're right. And I can't blame it on any funky modification there.
What's worse is I just re-watched the episode not even a month ago! It's one of the trippiest-looking episodes, so I decided to have my projector facing the ceiling and I watched it facing upwards, while laying on my bed.
Off-Topic but related to what we're talking about. "Where No Man Has Gone Before", "By Any Other Name", "Is There In Truth No Beauty?" They used that shot of the Enterprise approaching the Galactic Barrier every season. If "The Magicks of Megas-Tu" had been live-action, and it was in a fourth season of TOS, they probably would've found a way to use that footage there too!
Not that I would've blamed them. It was great footage to get some mileage out of.
Not that I would've blamed them. It was great footage to get some mileage out of.
One of the things that makes "padding" difficult to judge in a lot of DISCO seasons is that often the most enjoyable aspects of a season have been the semi-standalone plots, while the "arcwork" tended to be lower quality.
Like, Magic to Make the Sanest Man go Mad is undoubtedly filler in Season 1. It doesn't really forward the central arc of the season at all. It's also considerably better than most of Season 1 though.
Or, turning to Season 2, if you look at an episode like Through the Valley of Shadows the stuff about Pike discovering his fate on Boreth was compelling. Michael and Spock dealing with that Control zombie dude, however, was anything but.
I do think it's easier to point out filler in Seasons 3/4 though. Each had slow-paced episodes near the middle of the season which neither did much to further the arc, nor surpassed "mid" in overall storytelling.
Like, Magic to Make the Sanest Man go Mad is undoubtedly filler in Season 1. It doesn't really forward the central arc of the season at all. It's also considerably better than most of Season 1 though.
Or, turning to Season 2, if you look at an episode like Through the Valley of Shadows the stuff about Pike discovering his fate on Boreth was compelling. Michael and Spock dealing with that Control zombie dude, however, was anything but.
I do think it's easier to point out filler in Seasons 3/4 though. Each had slow-paced episodes near the middle of the season which neither did much to further the arc, nor surpassed "mid" in overall storytelling.
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