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I wonder though with Zephram being such a drunk whether someone slipped him the warp formula and plans and nudged him along.

I've always kind of liked the idea that he was an augment, which gave him that extra mental power to make the leap to design warp drive. Maybe not all augments are uber violent self destructive Khan worshippers.
 
It’s kind of wild that we still don’t know the names of the episodes to come after tonight’s — not even next week’s.
 
What part of the episode did he write?

The opening sequence, plus they reused the Talosians and Vina, in addition to Spock and Pike. All of which were Roddenberry creations specifically for "The Cage".

Maybe @Maurice could chime in? Does the "Based on..." credit cover everything?
 
the "Previously On" bit

In other words: the recap. We don't see writer credits for episodes that are recapped in a different episode.

Maybe "Based on characters created by" works but "Based on Star Trek created by Gene Roddenberry" is in the credits for every episode of every series and movie.
 
In other words: the recap. We don't see writer credits for episodes that are recapped in a different episode.

Maybe "Based on characters created by" works but "Based on Star Trek created by Gene Roddenberry" is in the credits for every episode of every series and movie.
IMDB isn't showing a credit for him for writer. Anyway he gets a credit in every episode, "based upon "Star Trek" created by"
 
In other words: the recap. We don't see writer credits for episodes that are recapped in a different episode.

Maybe "Based on characters created by" works but "Based on Star Trek created by Gene Roddenberry" is in the credits for every episode of every series and movie.

I know. I am curious how it works. Which is why I'm hoping @Maurice or someone else with experience with it could chime in.
 
Roddenberry and his Estate only ever get residuals for however his original contract with NBC and then Paramount played out.
God only knows what happened to all that when CBS took over.

One would have to assume that whatever the Writer's Union (Guild) Contract's were during the time periods in question, those would be the basic fees paid and then add on top of that whatever the individual's agent's & lawyer's involved worked out.
By now, I would guess that the residuals contracted upon back in the 60's are probably minimal.
(and his death could have nullified some of them as well)
:shrug:
 
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Writers GUILD of America, not Union.

I'm certain the Roddenberry estate/heirs gets something for anything spun off of Star Trek, because that's what the WGA MBA (Minimum Basic Agreement) specifies. Gene could sell his rights to the show(s) and he'd have no control and no say, but he'd still get a cut of the writing fees because of said WGA MBA.

@BillJ [edit] Staff writers are handled somewhat differently than freelancers because they are on the payroll, so I don't think John DF Black got paid again when Kevin Riley reappeared, since he created Riley while on staff. The same would apply to characters like Sarek, Kor, etc.

Not sure how excerpts from previous episodes are handled. The writers probably don't get paid for those given how brief they are.

The rules here are a little slippery because there are so many possible edge cases, which is why such matters sometimes end up in WGA Arbitration.
 
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I don't know about the writers, but I remember reading that they had to get permission from the estates of all of the actors in order to show the clips from the original episode.
 
… I'm certain the Roddenberry estate/heirs gets something for anything spun off of Star Trek, because that's what the WGA MBA (Minimum Basic Agreement) specifies. Gene could sell his rights to the show(s) and he'd have no control and no say, but he'd still get a cut of the writing fees because of said WGA MBA ….

Aside from selling them he could lose some to divorce. I believe that's what happened with his original stake in Star Trek (TOS). Same thing with Shatner. I think he got a 5% stake in the show for being the lead eventually having it halved when he divorced his first wife, Gloria.

Though at one point Gene Roddenberry could have owned Star Trek lock, stock and barrel had he been able to raise the $100,000 asking price.
 
Writers GUILD of America, not Union.

I'm certain the Roddenberry estate/heirs gets something for anything spun off of Star Trek, because that's what the WGA MBA (Minimum Basic Agreement) specifies. Gene could sell his rights to the show(s) and he'd have no control and no say, but he'd still get a cut of the writing fees because of said WGA MBA.

@BillJ [edit] Staff writers are handled somewhat differently than freelancers because they are on the payroll, so I don't think John DF Black got paid again when Kevin Riley reappeared, since he created Riley while on staff. The same would apply to characters like Sarek, Kor, etc.

Not sure how excerpts from previous episodes are handled. The writers probably don't get paid for those given how brief they are.

The rules here are a little slippery because there are so many possible edge cases, which is why such matters sometimes end up in WGA Arbitration.
They call it a Guild but it still acts like a Union as far as contracts are concerned.
 
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