Spoilers General Disco Chat Thread

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Discovery' started by Lord Garth, Jul 6, 2018.

  1. cooleddie74

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  2. Mr Awe

    Mr Awe Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Well, if it makes you feel better thinking it's highly rated, sure go for it.

    Personally, I don't care about the ratings. Fortunate, because Discovery's ratings are tiny compared to the shows in the real top 10.
     
  3. fireproof78

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    How I feel about ratings in an entertainment endeavor:
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  4. Mr Awe

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    ^ Love it!
     
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  5. donners22

    donners22 Commodore Commodore

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    I am somewhat amused to see the ratings in the same territory as the much-hyped Picard S3. When that made the ratings, there was plenty of talk about how it showed it was what The Fans wanted. Now that it's Disco, of course, it doesn't matter.
     
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    Sipnosis in spanish/title ep 10.

    Ep 10 Como la vida misma

    La capitana Burnham debe luchar contra moll para proteger la tecnología de los Progenitores para la Federación.

    Google traslator:

    Ep 10 Like life itself

    Captain Burnham must fight Minor to protect the Progenitors' technology for the Federation.

     
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  7. The Wormhole

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    I'm assuming there's a mistranslation going on there and Michael isn't actually going to fight a child?
     
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  8. Quantum21

    Quantum21 Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    If anyone pointed this out before, my apologies.

    Star Trek Discovery is now Star Trek's longest running show!

    Yes, covid and a strike reduced what might have been a 6 or 7 season run to 5, and it's escalating price tag caused it to not be renewed, but it will run 7 years!

    Star Trek the Next Generation:

    09/28/87-05/23/94 - 2430 days

    Star Trek Discovery:

    09/24/17-05/30/24 - 2441 days

    Amaze your friends at Trek trivia with this arcane knowledge.
     
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  9. Agony_Boothb

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  10. Quantum21

    Quantum21 Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Yes, kind of a laughable reaction.

    250 million minutes viewed. That's nothing.

    By the end of the season, I believe Discovery will rank on the list more times than Picard season 3 did in the Originals top 10.
     
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  11. Kraig

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    Probably has dificulty recognizing the name "Moll" and changed it to "Minor"

    Maybe it considered the American English slang definition of "moll" from the 1920's as a gangsters "girl" friend.
     
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  13. Kraig

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    Ep 10 Como la vida misma

    La capitana Burnham debe luchar contra moll para proteger la tecnología de los Progenitores para la Federación.

    Google traslator:

    Ep 10 Like life itself

    Captain Burnham must fight Minor Moll to protect the Progenitors' technology for the Federation.

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  14. Firebird

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    Anytime one of the new Trek series does well in the ratings, it drives folks like Rob Meyer Burnett crazy and I just think that's neat.
     
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    It's the wrong type of fans watching, according to the gatekeepers.
     
  16. Lord Garth

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    I'm the odd-man out, apparently, who likes DSC and PIC, but I do think the Top 10 matters. Hopefully it encourages them to make a Disco TV Movie.
     
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  17. Mr Awe

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    I don't generally concern myself with the ratings and don't consider them when thinking about how much I like a series.

    But the ratings for PIC and DIS are interesting. I gather that PIC S3 were about 10% higher than the current DIS ratings, but I'll consider them approximately equal.

    The interesting thing is that they're pretty low in the grand scheme of things. Usually near the bottom of the Originals category and never in the overall top 10. In fact, they're a long ways out of the overall top 10.

    Now that's nothing to hold against either series in my mind. But, you can see it from an executive's point of view where these are expensive series to make and they won't light up the charts. They've got a guaranteed, but small, audience. Worth doing but they're won't go all out to make them. Particularly now with the financial problems.
     
  18. Lord Garth

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    I'm impressed. DSC only being 10% below PIC S3 is actually pretty good considering PIC S3 was a TNG Reunion.
     
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    Really I don't see how you can think this way.

    Now what we know. Picard only was even able to track for episodes 3 -10. We know out of those weeks only 3 episodes made the top 10. 276 million minutes, 310 million minutes and 400 million minutes. Out of the 5 weeks in didn't track the threshold to make the top ten was 402, 409, 334, 337. and 279 million minutes viewed.

    What we know of Discovery so far. Its tracked two weeks out of three with one of those weeks. With 256, 241 million minutes. The Threshold to make the top ten in all three weeks was between 228 and 274 million minutes viewed.

    To put the numbers that Discovery tracked, and using the tenth place of the week it didn't. There isn't a single week so far (we still have 5 weeks and who knows where the ratings may climb, stay the same or decline during that time) that would have tracked during Picard season 3 (including the two weeks before Paramount started releasing data).

    And if anyone remembers the ever so charming poster who used to post about Parrot analysis, and using Canada ratings to indicate US ratings (I honestly don't remember the posters name), you can find many of my posts refuting his statements because they weren't factually based. He would use Canadian numbers to judge how the show did everywhere (statistically speaking there is no value for that). He would use Parrot Analysis which tracked social media as a gauge of Success. Social Media doesn't equal viewers. I mean NCIS wouldn't have lasted 21 years, as it does exceedingly poor in social engagement but as a very large (by today's standards audience). And would use Paramount Plus listing of shows as an indicator. Thats has no real value because to have value you must have numbers that then can be directly compared to other numbers to get a value.

    And of course, anyone who thinks quality equals ratings hasn't paid attention to the historical ratings records gong back since the early days of television. You can even see how I talk about this when I posted the first ever legitimated ratings for the 3 seasons of TOS.

    Now one thing we are likely to get from Discovery is that based on the preliminary numbers for streaming (which don't include Paramount data) we are going to continue to have lower than normal thresholds to reach the top ten. Hopefully Discovery maintains ratings high enough to keep getting listed. I love ratings, so any additional information I can get (especially now days were so little is reported) is always something I greatly appreciate.
     
  20. Mr Awe

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    Sure, I guess in the context of our little ST world, it's good. No disrespect to either show but it's interesting what small potatoes ST is in the larger context--on the overall ratings tab for streamers.

    I think it also shows that while people bitch and moan about one or the other, it's really the same basic set of people watching all the shows. Yeah, it's not a completely overlapping set but probably mostly so.

    I'd also bet the bean counters at Paramount aren't disappointed with Discovery's ratings.