Gay Marriage? Not in this Bakery!

[RJDiogenes]

Contrary to the depraved rantings of some on here, it is NOT a settled issue, scientifically, morally and existentially, that homosexuality is as natural as people being born black, latino, a pacific islander, female or whatever else.

Yes, it is proven scientifically that homosexuality is natural and not harmful. For homosexuality to be immoral, it would have to be harmful. As for existentially, who cares?

So, yes, it's settled.

 

[Paradon]

I think most parents don't want to see their children get hurt; that's why they fear their children will turn out to be gay, lesbian or transgendered.

 

[Roger Wilco]

I think most parents don't want to see their children get hurt; that's why they fear their children will turn out to be gay, lesbian or transgendered.

I bet most parents would prefer their children to be gay, lesbian or transgendered instead of someone who writes comments like this.

 

[Shawnster]

Contrary to the depraved rantings of some on here, it is NOT a settled issue, scientifically, morally and existentially, that homosexuality is as natural as people being born black, latino, a pacific islander, female or whatever else.

Yes, it is proven scientifically that homosexuality is natural and not harmful. For homosexuality to be immoral, it would have to be harmful. As for existentially, who cares?

So, yes, it's settled.

Morality is not limited to harmful vs. non harmful.

The "problem" (for lack of a better word) with morality is that it's subjective based on the person involved. What one finds moral or acceptable another may find immoral or repugnant. This is because people don't agree on what the source of morality should be. Without being united on who/what determines what is good and what is bad, everyone's viewpoint will be out of sync.

This is totally different than the clear cut, black and white nature of harmful vs. not harmful.

 

[RoJoHen]

I think most parents don't want to see their children get hurt; that's why they fear their children will turn out to be gay, lesbian or transgendered.

Then they should be hoping that the world will be tolerant of their lifestyle, not that their lifestyle should fit the world's preconceptions.

 

[Squiggy]

You can call it what you'd like, 4th hanson - but my experience on the BBS has clearly been that the majority of the ultraleft posters here act like crazed cultists who require that others toe the line on their pet issues. And if someone does not - and actually has the audacity to be STEADFAST in their opinions - they are bombarded with with all manner of out of left field insults, defamation, and wild-eyed slander. Yet the MODS rarely do anything about it, most likely, if we're being honest, because they prefer those ultaliberal viewpoints, and fall back into the any liberal = openminded and "progressive" and conservative = backwards and hateful duality, which is nonsense. I thought this was a discussion board.

One strong evidence of the above is your suggestion that my mentioning "cowardly politicians" rises to the level of trolling. Given that this is a label regularly used by commentators right and even left (have you looked at TNZ lately), it comes off as a bit of red herring. And suggests that perhaps you are driven by other motivations.

I was going to come up with a rational and well-reasoned response for you, but it would be pointless.


Shut the fuck up.

 

[TheSeeker]

^Pssst!

This isn't TNZ.

 

[Squiggy]

Don't care. I know what I said.

 

[Kemaiku]

You can call it what you'd like, 4th hanson - but my experience on the BBS has clearly been that the majority of the ultraleft posters here act like crazed cultists who require that others toe the line on their pet issues. And if someone does not - and actually has the audacity to be STEADFAST in their opinions - they are bombarded with with all manner of out of left field insults, defamation, and wild-eyed slander. Yet the MODS rarely do anything about it, most likely, if we're being honest, because they prefer those ultaliberal viewpoints, and fall back into the any liberal = openminded and "progressive" and conservative = backwards and hateful duality, which is nonsense. I thought this was a discussion board.

One strong evidence of the above is your suggestion that my mentioning "cowardly politicians" rises to the level of trolling. Given that this is a label regularly used by commentators right and even left (have you looked at TNZ lately), it comes off as a bit of red herring. And suggests that perhaps you are driven by other motivations.

I was going to come up with a rational and well-reasoned response for you, but it would be pointless.


Shut the fuck up.

It's all the responce his kind of posting deserves.

 

[Manticore]

While it was a stupid reason not to serve the couple, I do respect the owner's right not to serve them if she didn't want to.

I respect the right of a bigot to be bigoted. I also respect the right of the open-minded to protest that bigotry. Protesters of bigotry have free speech too.

 

[Timby]

Darn, and Iowa is normally pretty good about this kind of stuff.

Des Moines is conservative as hell, though. It, and the rest of Polk County, is basically right-wing Iowa's answer to Johnson and Dubuque Counties. Honestly, this doesn't surprise me, and that's sad.

Aw, didn't know that about Des Moines. The only thing I know about it is that getting there from the Quad Cities is one of the most boring drives in the entire world.

When it comes to Iowa, everything west of Iowa City is conservative as hell. The only reason Tom Harkin keeps his seat is because Scott, Johnson and Dubuque Counties turn out in droves for him.

 

[RoJoHen]

Des Moines is conservative as hell, though. It, and the rest of Polk County, is basically right-wing Iowa's answer to Johnson and Dubuque Counties. Honestly, this doesn't surprise me, and that's sad.

Aw, didn't know that about Des Moines. The only thing I know about it is that getting there from the Quad Cities is one of the most boring drives in the entire world.

When it comes to Iowa, everything west of Iowa City is conservative as hell. The only reason Tom Harkin keeps his seat is because Scott, Johnson and Dubuque Counties turn out in droves for him.

That explains it. My knowledge of Iowa is limited to everything east of Iowa City.

 

[TheBrew]

Mine is limited to Star Trek '09.

 

[Squiggy]

Iowa: The Grand Canyon State

 

[RoJoHen]

Iowa: The Grand Canyon State

It's just a little rock quarry. No big deal.

 

[Squiggy]

Iowa: Shipbuilder's Paradise

 

[RoJoHen]

They should put that on their brochures.

 

[Kemaiku]

Iowa: Trekkies Not Welcome

 

[Guartho]

I think the gay communities think they should have extra rights just becaus they are gay

What extra rights have they ever indicated they would like?

Well, even my gay friend doesn't want to be associated with the mainstream."

Well, even my three gay friends (yes, that's right, I have three times the not-a-bigot credibility) want equal treatment before the law.

 

[RoJoHen]

I think the gay communities think they should have extra rights just becaus they are gay

What extra rights have they ever indicated they would like?

Well, even my gay friend doesn't want to be associated with the mainstream."

Well, even my three gay friends (yes, that's right, I have three times the not-a-bigot credibility) want equal treatment before the law.

Yeah, they don't want extra rights. They want equal rights. Big difference.

Is there a quota of gay friends we need to meet to prove we're not bigots? Because I have lots!