I got it for Christmas, watched it again, and I really enjoyed it, much more than I did initially. I thought it was good when I saw it in the theater, but I really got into it this time around, being able to sit and take it all in.
Gave the movie a second viewing.
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startrekrcks
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see the movie grows on you
I had the very same experience. I wanted to like it so much when I went into the theater, but came out feeling very indifferent to the film. But since I had put so much energy into wanting to like it, I decided to purchase the dvd to give it another chance. It was definitely better upon second viewing. And the discussions here on the board helped, as it allowed me to see the opinions of others as well as the things they'd noticed that I'd missed. It completed the experience
startrekrcks
Fleet Captain
But does it feel like Star Trek you grew up with or does it not just wondering.
Mmmm... not really, though I didn't expect it to. And the film not feeling like the old series wasn't a detriment to the film. I took it for what it was, a reboot, and it was fun.
startrekrcks
Fleet Captain
but there were nods to the original series in the movie which was good I thought
I did find the movie worked better on DVD than it did in theatres. But my opinion of it has not improved, and it still is nowhere near my favourite film.
and that was the best part. so very cleverly done too. so much so that I, a life-long Trekkie, would notice them right away and enjoy the movie even more than I would had they not been there. they were like little winks from the cast and the crew to me -- a fellow-Trekkie.
but to someone who's never really seen Trek or hasn't seen it with the same fervor that I have, the experience was fine. it wasn't like they had to know everything that had gone on before -- especially the little details that have made Trek dear to us. they were fine with the ride.
startrekrcks
Fleet Captain
especially Karl Urban's Bones who was fantastic it was like watching a young version of the character what do you think
Those little winks also subtly educated the uninitiated viewer into some of the greater Star Trek lore, and they were done in such a way that they didn't seem forced.
The #1 thing this film did for me was to bring back that sense of fun the original series had.
I watched a couple of TNG episodes on TV recently, and although I enjoyed them, they came across as a little stiff and formal in a way.
And that never really left Star Trek after TNG, and the TNG movies tend to have that same formality, if that's the term.
DS9, VOY and ENT also had this same sense of formality.
TOS and the TOS Movies did not have this, and the movie dispensed with it as well.
The #1 thing this film did for me was to bring back that sense of fun the original series had.
I watched a couple of TNG episodes on TV recently, and although I enjoyed them, they came across as a little stiff and formal in a way.
And that never really left Star Trek after TNG, and the TNG movies tend to have that same formality, if that's the term.
DS9, VOY and ENT also had this same sense of formality.
TOS and the TOS Movies did not have this, and the movie dispensed with it as well.
Nowhere Man
Commodore
I have to agree with everyone else, the movie is better the second time around. It's not the Star Trek I grew up with and would make some changes, but yet a good movie. I still would love to see the old universe, I feel that the TNG crew didn't get a proper send off like TOS crew did. I'm also ready for a new series.
I had the same experience of enhanced second-time-around enjoyment - but in addition, was saved from the full trauma of a poor original viewing experience thanks to copious amounts of booze...
Seen sober, the movie no longer suffers so horribly from the overtly fast pacing or the silliest plot holes. I still dislike the unnecessary "action sequence" on Delta Vega and the associated astronomical coincidences, but the final fight inside the Narada doesn't feel so rushed any more. And I've done enough rationalizing on the plot illogic that very little of it feels unbearable now.
What I detest more the second time around are the aforementioned nods to previous movies. The reuses of Ceti eels and the Mutara nebula under different aliases are the worst offenders, and the ones that cross the bothering threshold.
Oh, and the forced lens flares hurt my eyes more now. Dis-gusting. I could stand the shaking (the extras on JJ himself shaking the cam are hilarious!), but the flares and the blurry and shadowy frames are ugly. Thankfully, there's almost no BSG-style delayed focusing, contrary to my first-time recollection.
The positive things get a minor upgrade as I'm able to enjoy the superb acting in instant replays and non-eardrum-splitting dialogue volumes. The genius of a casting person should get an Oscar for this. (Is there such a category?)
Timo Saloniemi
Seen sober, the movie no longer suffers so horribly from the overtly fast pacing or the silliest plot holes. I still dislike the unnecessary "action sequence" on Delta Vega and the associated astronomical coincidences, but the final fight inside the Narada doesn't feel so rushed any more. And I've done enough rationalizing on the plot illogic that very little of it feels unbearable now.
What I detest more the second time around are the aforementioned nods to previous movies. The reuses of Ceti eels and the Mutara nebula under different aliases are the worst offenders, and the ones that cross the bothering threshold.
Oh, and the forced lens flares hurt my eyes more now. Dis-gusting. I could stand the shaking (the extras on JJ himself shaking the cam are hilarious!), but the flares and the blurry and shadowy frames are ugly. Thankfully, there's almost no BSG-style delayed focusing, contrary to my first-time recollection.
The positive things get a minor upgrade as I'm able to enjoy the superb acting in instant replays and non-eardrum-splitting dialogue volumes. The genius of a casting person should get an Oscar for this. (Is there such a category?)
Timo Saloniemi
startrekrcks
Fleet Captain
It was the actors that did a fantastic job don't you think
To be honest, yes. I never realized, especially since I was a big fan of TNG, that watching TOS as a kid had a certain fun and adventure that was kind of magical. I noticed, as I left the theatre the first time, that I felt the same kind of thing for the first time since my childhood. Nimoy summed it up best in the DVD extras, when he said that JJ and Co. did a wonderful job of capturing the essense Star Trek.
Now to be fair, was this much different from all that has come before? Absolutely. But was there enough in place to make it work for me and make it feel legitimately like Star Trek? Again absolutely. I know not everyone feels the same, but for me, this new path is a keeper.
No. A Best Casting category had been proposed for the Oscars in 1999 and rejected. The movie did receive an award from the Casting Society of America, though.
In some ways, it feels like TOS, but it also feels very different. It's hard to describe beyond that, as feelings often are.
What reuse of the "Mutara Nebula" are you speaking of?
I agree with my best frien's simple review of the film: "I like everything about the film except the plot."
In particular, he thought the villain was bland. I agree and would even say that the design elements of his ship were all pretty bland as well. It's like they really wanted to jump start Trek again but they needed a villain for nthe sake of having the villain, and for the sequel they can tell the story that they really want to tell. I hate that aspect of the movie.
In particular, he thought the villain was bland. I agree and would even say that the design elements of his ship were all pretty bland as well. It's like they really wanted to jump start Trek again but they needed a villain for nthe sake of having the villain, and for the sequel they can tell the story that they really want to tell. I hate that aspect of the movie.
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