Gary Mitchell, where is he?

[JonathonWally]

So I've watched the trailer a bunch of times now. I see all the people playing the cast, but I don't see Gary Mitchell.

What about the original turtleneck uniforms?

Will Sulu start out in astrophysics?

 

[Michael]

Sorry, I doubt Gary Mitchell and the turtlenecks will be in this movie. And Sulu looks like he's more into fencing.

 

[DeafPoet]

Sorry, I doubt Gary Mitchell and the turtlenecks will be in this movie. And Sulu looks like he's more into fencing.

The first of many non-canon things we'll find out Sulu's "into".

"Oh my!"

 

[Bill Morris]

What about Harry Mudd?

 

[M'Sharak]

So I've watched the trailer a bunch of times now. I see all the people playing the cast, but I don't see Gary Mitchell.

What about the original turtleneck uniforms?

Will Sulu start out in astrophysics?

Do you like Huey Lewis and the News?


(Sorry, I just had to do it.)

OT: There have been no sign of the turtleneck uniform tunics, and Gary Mitchell does not appear to figure in this story. The same would probably be true of Sulu's stint in Astrophysics, though much is yet to be known.

 

[Michael]

Do you like Huey Lewis and the News?



(Sorry, I just had to do it.)

Well, I do. But I don't get that joke.

 

[gastrof]

I suppose in this NuTrek universe, the situation with Gary Mitchell could take place after the red, gold, and blue uniforms start being used (since they're being used already).

He doesn't have to be Kirk's first officer. Just a longtime friend who ends up assigned to the Enterprise and is transformed by the energy field along with Elizabeth Dehner, played by Hannah Montana.

 

[M'Sharak]

Do you like Huey Lewis and the News?



(Sorry, I just had to do it.)

Well, I do. But I don't get that joke.

Going back a bit, JWally had one or more avatars featuring Christian Bale's character from American Psycho and a running joke which involved quoting a section of dialogue from the movie beginning with that line. (You'll be able to find the text here, about three-quarters of the way down.) It just amused me to have Urban's McCoy saying the line.

 

[JuanBolio]

Gary Mitchell, where is he?

He's dead, Jim.

 

[Timo]

It seems the movie will be jumping around in time quite a bit. Trailers so far suggest at least five distinct years that the camera will visit, and probably far more are being kept hidden from us.

What are the odds that any of those onscreen years would concentrate on the time Kirk was a bookwormish instructor at Starfleet Academy? Those years would be one of the likeliest victims to skipping over. So we wouldn't see much of Mitchell there. Nor is the movie likely to dwell on the days or weeks or months leading to the "Where No Man" mission, because drama would call for the movie to end in an "open" manner, leaving Captain Kirk free for whatever sequel adventure is in planning, so no Mitchell there, either.

Overall, it's unlikely we will get the full story of Kirk's growth from embryo to Captain here, any more than we got it from Trek episodes and movies so far. As the end credits roll, there will still remain enough cracks in which each and every casual reference about Kirk's history can still nicely fall.

Timo Saloniemi

 

[Kirk1980]

Yeah, never mind the fact that McCoy wasn't in Where No Man, Sulu wasn't the helmsman, Scotty was in gold/tan/whatever the pilot color was, no Chekov, no Uhura, no red shirts of any kind....

Safe to say, I doubt anything will be mentioned of the Where No Man continuity at all. About the only visual reference to the pilots seems to be the rank insignia.

 

[Devon]

Gary is hiding under the other bed.

 

[Saga]

i'm sure audiences would have been thrilled at the intense scenes of Kirk reading books and getting a bucket of water thrown on him by Finnegan.

 

[SpaceTurkey]

In this altered timeline Kirk may not even know Mitchell. It seems that Kirk enters the academy later in this timeline than he did in the original. We don't know how he met Gary, maybe they would have met during Kirk's first year as a cadet. It's possible that they don't even know each other or have only met a few times and are not friends.

On a somewhat related topic, if the "blonde lab technician" that Gary references setting up Kirk with in Where No Man Has Gone Before was Carol Marcus, there might be no David, meaning probably no genesis planet or Kahn escaping.

Think about all the things that could be changed in this new timeline due to Kirk having different experiences and Nero's actions. What happens in the movie may change even more in the future.

It seems that this is a time travel explained reboot.

 

[SpaceTurkey]

Sorry, double post

 

[Timo]

Then again, we never had a problem with the fandom idea that Kirk grew up without a father before. While it might be that George Kirk Sr. wasn't fated to die in the hands of Nero, it might be that he was fated to die anyway, around that timeframe, and Nero affected nothing much.

If Nero has accurate and authentic intelligence, why would he try and kill Kirk's parents at a timepoint where Kirk himself has already been born? Nero might have aimed at killing little Jimmy specifically, but failed because Jimmy was evacuated from the exploding Kelvin in time. Thus, virtually nothing in Kirk's life changed.

That is, of course there might be a butterfly effect where everything changes because a tiny detail went differently back in the 2230s. But no Trek episode or movie so far has supported the existence of a butterfly effect: the changes are always minor, and only affect the life of a specific person while leaving his or her surroundings basically intact (say, "Tapestry").

Timo Saloniemi

 

[Kirk1980]

Timo...er, I think you're in the wrong thread.

This is about Gary Mitchell, not Kirk's dad

 

[Timo]

Ah, but I'm trying to postulate that George Kirk's death doesn't necessarily mean Jim Kirk suddenly won't meet Gary Mitchell...

Admittedly, though, it wouldn't be easy to work in the "The Cage" or "Where No Man" uniforms. It's possible that "The Cage" style comes in between the styles we see aboard the Kelvin and aboard the Enterprise in this movie (I hope those two are different), and the "Where No Man" style comes between Kirk's "Let's buckle up!" towards the end of this movie and his "Viewscreen on!" at the beginning of the pilot episode. But that might be a bit too complicated, depending on how much temporal ground this movie really covers.

Timo Saloniemi

 

[Kirk1980]

Also...will there be any women crewmembers in.....

pants?

Inquiring minds want to know!

 

[Timo]

English or American definition of the word? I thought we already saw Uhura in pants...

Timo Saloniemi