Garth of Izar is the bad guy?

[Pondslider]

Isn't Garth supposed to be much older than Kirk?

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

I may have found a clue in the synopsis...

"As our heroes are propelled into an epic chess game of life and death..."

Chess game.

"Queen to Queen's level three"

Oh snap!

OH. WOW!

That's great.

 

[M'Sharak]

I may have found a clue in the synopsis...

"As our heroes are propelled into an epic chess game of life and death..."

Chess game.

"Queen to Queen's level three"

Oh snap!

Or is it that your white chessmen are all melty?

The trouble with "clues" of that sort is that you can make them fit all sorts of conclusions.

 

[Tiberius Jim]

Yep, because this is the face of a fearsome villain.

That post was meant to be a bit tongue in cheek.

 

[Shon T'Hara]

It's science fiction/fantasy. If they want to change the what a genetically engineered superman looks like I think there's enough leeway there.

So if you take an Indian embryo and genetically engineer it to be superhuman, it turns into a white European dude? Yeah, I think there are some issues with that concept.

Besides, Abrams has a professional relationship with a very fine Indian actor who's popular with American audiences and would make a great genetic superman.

 

[Pondslider]

It's science fiction/fantasy. If they want to change the what a genetically engineered superman looks like I think there's enough leeway there.

So if you take an Indian embryo and genetically engineer it to be superhuman, it turns into a white European dude?

Obviously he turns into a Mexican dude.

 

[GMDreia]

Isn't Garth supposed to be much older than Kirk?

They seriously "agebent" Zephram Cochrane when they recast him for ST:FC. Nobody complained.

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

Yep, because this is the face of a fearsome villain.

That post was meant to be a bit tongue in cheek.

So was mine suggesting Zephram Cochrane but people ran with it

We are just so desperate to figure this out!

 

[Pauln6]

The need to have Khan look like a genetically engineered superman is a big reason why it won't be Khan, not played by some scrawny, fugly guy with an accent that doesn't belong with a guy named Khan.

Maybe Khan is unfrozen by Klingons, taught to shapeshift by Antosians, taught mind control by Talosians and then impersonates Kirk's friend, Gary Mitchell. Only Kirk knows he's a phony 'cos the real Gary died when he once crossed the intergalactic barrier?

Actually, I'm thinking that with Pike returning in this movie, there may well be a Talosian reference somewhere.

Lol! I think I might write that plot down to include in my Youtube comic. My plot isn't quite convoluted enough yet.

 

[Pauln6]

I think that recasting Khan with a caucasian actor would seem like a a mind-bogglingly inappropriate move for a franchise that prides itself on racial diversity.

Having said that, Felix Leiter in the Bond franchise oscillates between different ethnicities and Skyfall adds something more to the mix. I think it's unlikely that Queen Guinevere was of african descent but Angel Coulby is one of the best things in the UK TV show Merlin.

Having said that, for none of those characters was race part of their backstory in the franchise in question. Mileage may vary.

I think they're having a great laugh at all the people who think he's playing Khan despite the denials and evidence to the contrary.

 

[SimpleLogic]

The villain's name is Gary Garth Khan of Izar but he goes by Robin.

He is definitely NOT Garth of Algar. http://images1.makefive.com/images/...kick-character/garth-from-wayne_s-world-7.jpg

[Image converted to link. - M']

 

[Pauln6]

He is definitely NOT Garth of Algar.[hotlinked image removed]

Don't be so sure... it looks cold outside and Cumberbatch has a jacket.

 

[ralph]

Trailer BNAT

One more point to Garth.

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

BNAT?

 

[ralph]

BNAT?

Trailer previewed yesterday at the "Butt-Numb-A-Thon, in Austin, Texas.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

It's not Garth.

Seriously?

Seriously. Not. Garth.

 

[M'Sharak]

The villain's name is Gary Garth Khan of Izar but he goes by Robin.

He is definitely NOT Garth of Algar. http://images1.makefive.com/images/...kick-character/garth-from-wayne_s-world-7.jpg

[Image converted to link. - M']

Please don't hotlink images from pages which are not yours.

 

[Ryan8bit]

And does anybody actually know where and what Izar is?

Well, it is a real star about 200 light-years away, but I don't think there's anything in Star Trek lore about it. I always just assumed he's human though.

What's funny about the age of the actor who played Garth is that he was actually younger than William Shatner. Surely he was meant to play someone who was older though, but this can easily be explained with his regenerative powers. At least that's an easier explanation than for why Pike was so much older in the new movie.

 

[Sir Rhosis]

I think that recasting Khan with a caucasian actor would seem like a a mind-bogglingly inappropriate move for a franchise that prides itself on racial diversity.

Having said that, Felix Leiter in the Bond franchise oscillates between different ethnicities and Skyfall adds something more to the mix.

OT: Leiter wasn't in Skyfall, unless I'm losing my memory of a film I saw just a couple weeks ago. I remember wondering if the actor asked too much money, or what.

Sir Rhosis

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

And does anybody actually know where and what Izar is?

Well, it is a real star about 200 light-years away, but I don't think there's anything in Star Trek lore about it. I always just assumed he's human though.

In the novels, Izar is a human colony which is now an independent Federation world. So Izarians, Garth included, are humans.