Garak - Andrew Robinson’s portrayal

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  1. Defiler-Of-Redshirts

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    I thought Andrew Robinson was a delicious acting treat in every Garak scene he ever played. Especially his tour-de-force in (the most interestingly, morally ambivalent masterpiece) "In The Pale Moonlight." What an episode that was!
     
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    Whatever was dangerous about the Obsidian Order lies with Garak; after he left it or was exiled that group had done nothing but a series of countless blunders which nearly crippled Cardassia.
     
  3. kkt

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    Or at least at the same time as Garak left. But, yes, the joint venture with the Romulans to destroy the Founders led in a straight line to Cardassia's ruin.
     
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    Garak is arguably the greatest character in Star Trek history. Andrew Robinson did such an amazing job playing Garak. The acting, the facial expressions, the dialogue delivery, the epic quotes, the humor, the mystery around him, the emotional baggage he was carrying, and the ability to turn into a cold blooded killer at any moment.
     
  5. Nakita Akita

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    That might be an overstatement.
    A lot of them have baggage.
    I think Odo was great, and Quark.
    I liked Kira but I'd rather be friends with Odo and Quark.
    On Next Generation Reg was good. He was way more interesting than most of the others that's for sure. On next generation it seemed everyone's baggage was either pretty silly or involved that they were just so perfect and it was work for them to be so perfect. (Boring)
     
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  6. kkt

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    When I start an episode and I see Andrew Robinson in the credits, I know it's going to be good.
    He was so great in DS9 that I'm surprised he wasn't in demand for complex roles in movies, instead of relatively straightforward parts on TV.
     
  7. mlbach

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    Because Scorpio Killer.
     
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    And Hellraiser...
    In Dirty Harry he made me believe he had been stabbed..,
     
  9. mlbach

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    He was so believable as the SK that he got death threats. He was locked into bad guy roles until he played Liberace, and people (i.e. casting directors) saw that there was more there than just pure evil. Bwahahaha.
     
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    Are you suggesting Liberace isn't pure evil? :p
     
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    Patrick Stewart was in the Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy BBC Miniseies. IIRC, he was starting to thin on top at that time. If you want to see him with a full head of hair watch I, Claudius. Obviously he is a lot younger then but he is totally unrecognisable and I only realised it was him by his distinct voice.
     
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    For me, Garek was part of the Old Guard whereas the likes of Dumar were put in positions of authority for the obedience and not being competent in a way to pose a threat to their superiors like Dukat.
     
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    To me, it's the Garak was a spy, while Damar and Dukat were military officers. Spies operating independently pretty much have to be able to think for themselves and interpret orders and what's best for Cardassia. The military values loyalty and obedience more and independent thought less.
     
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    I think Stewart was probably wearing a wig when he played Sejanus(sp?) in I Claudius.
     
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    That's funny because if memory serves me correctly, it was a fine mane he had in that show and it was fake!!
     
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    Garak was just such a wonderful character, particularly in the episode where he goes crazy because of his implant failing on him, the web of lies he spins and his subsequent line about:

    They’re all true.

    Even the lies?

    Especially the lies.

    I don’t think honestly, he ever had a bad moment on screen, his character was definitely one of the most interesting, hands down.
     
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    To be fair, the Dominion fooled two very paranoid, very powerful secret agencies. It was a great long game and they knew just which buttons to push.
     
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    And it’s crazy to believe that the Founders would go through all the trouble of creating an entire space empire of such immense power, as to leave their home world completely open to attack without any protection.

    A first year Starfleet Academy Cadet probably could have figured out that one which is why it’s so interesting that the Romulan infiltrator must have massaged the entire venture so finely that even someone like Tain was completely blinded to the obvious trap they were talking into.
     
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    I was watching these clips earlier today. Great Garak moments.



     
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  20. Nakita Akita

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    That's what was great about him. He's a character made for us to distrust or dislike.
    I could see where he would annoy someone. He was so smug.
    Him
    And Kai Winn. I wanted to reach into the TV and kill her evil ass most of the time.:lol:
    And Dukat. I wanted to kill him a lot too.
    Garak, mainly I think I would have just wanted to smack him upside the head.