Game of Thrones spinoff A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms: The Hedge Knight ordered to HBO series

[Captaindemotion]

Is Duncan’s hesitation at knighting Raymun because he knows his isn’t a knight so can’t really do it or because he is worried about his friend fighting?

I assumed the latter. It never really occurred to me until I read your post that he might not be a real knight. Unless I missed something or there’s a twist to come, I think Duncan is too innocent and straightforward to lie about something like that. Look how annoyed he got with Egg for lying to him.

 

[FPAlpha]

This show gets better each episode. I honestly wish I had never read the book so I didn’t have any idea what will be happening next episode. Even though I do and am just as eager as my son to see episode 5. I am not sure who I like more Lyonel Baratheon or Raymun Fossoway.

Is Duncan’s hesitation at knighting Raymun because he knows he isn’t a knight so can’t really do it or because he is worried about his friend fighting?

I haven't read the novellas but the show is not subtle about avoiding a direct answer or giving proof that Duncan has indeed been knighted.

I read somewhere recently, possibly in an interview with the showrunners, that this is what makes his character so fascinating that even if he isn't properly knighted he upholds the laws, virtues and the oath far more than most of the "Knights" present at the tournament and that makes Duncan so likeable ( amongst many other qualities).

Waiting this entire week will be hard especially fighting off the urge to spoil myself how the coming fight will play out. Game of Thrones in the first few seasons was wildly unpredictable and made shocking story developments but the latter half unfortunately gave many characters huge plot armor, so i don't know which part this story will take inspiration from.

 

[CaptainWacky]

The ending with Baelor riding in after Dunk's "no true knights" speech and the Game of Thrones theme kicking in was maybe the most uplifting moment in a Westeros tv show since Oberyn agreed to fight for Tyrion. Great episode.

 

[The Nth Doctor]

Godsdamn, what an episode.

I was already a fan of Baelor going into this episode and I was further struck by his honor when he gave Duncan wise counsel when he didn't have to. But I was still blown away when he decided to fight alongside Duncan against his own family. Regardless of how the Trial of the Seven ends, he will remain a favorite character of the season (along with Lyonel, of course) and it's truly refreshing to see a decent and kind Targaryen, especially one in power (as opposed to Aemon and Egg).

 

[Chaos Descending]

I assumed the latter. It never really occurred to me until I read your post that he might not be a real knight. Unless I missed something or there’s a twist to come, I think Duncan is too innocent and straightforward to lie about something like that. Look how annoyed he got with Egg for lying to him.

I assumed that Dunk's hesitation was due to not feeling personally worthy of knighting someone else. He's actually a very humble man.

 

[Captaindemotion]

The ending with Baelor riding in after Dunk's "no true knights" speech and the Game of Thrones theme kicking in was maybe the most uplifting moment in a Westeros tv show since Oberyn agreed to fight for Tyrion. Great episode.

Yikes, I hope it ends a bit better than that

 

[137th Gebirg]

Godsdamn, what an episode.

I was already a fan of Baelor going into this episode and I was further struck by his honor when he gave Duncan wise counsel when he didn't have to. But I was still blown away when he decided to fight alongside Duncan against his own family. Regardless of how the Trial of the Seven ends, he will remain a favorite character of the season (along with Lyonel, of course) and it's truly refreshing to see a decent and kind Targaryen, especially one in power (as opposed to Aemon and Egg).

"Every time a new Targaryen is born, the gods toss a coin in the air, and the world holds its breath to see how it will land".

Baelor is clearly one of the good ones. However, based on how many "good" Targaryens we've seen on-screen vs "bad" ones, it feels like the gods are actually using a 20-sided die with the "natural 20" being the only success roll.

 

[Timelord79 (he/him)]

"Every time a new Targaryen is born, the gods toss a coin in the air, and the world holds its breath to see how it will land".

Baelor is clearly one of the good ones. However, based on how many "good" Targaryens we've seen on-screen vs "bad" ones, it feels like the gods are actually using a 20-sided die with the "natural 20" being the only success roll.

Oh I think there have been some that were not so bad, just falling incredibly short

 

[TimeIsAPredator]

"Every time a new Targaryen is born, the gods toss a coin in the air, and the world holds its breath to see how it will land".

Baelor is clearly one of the good ones. However, based on how many "good" Targaryens we've seen on-screen vs "bad" ones, it feels like the gods are actually using a 20-sided die with the "natural 20" being the only success roll.

It's actually even enough unless I am forgetting people. Jon and his father were both good people and Aemon was good. Dany and her father were obviously nuts.

Probably 50/50 in HotD too. Some idiots but not more bad than good people.

 

[137th Gebirg]

Fair enough - forgot about those.

Daenerys, though... It's almost like the gods flipped a coin on her at King's Landing...

 

[TimeIsAPredator]

Fair enough - forgot about those.

Daenerys, though... It's almost like the gods flipped a coin on her at King's Landing...

She was always nuts. She only got into the idea of being nice to people and protecting them when they started praising her and parading her around on high.
She freed slaves so they would worship her.

 

[DigificWriter]

The end of Dany's story was a product of gaslighting, and failed as a result.

 

[The Nth Doctor]

She was always nuts. She only got into the idea of being nice to people and protecting them when they started praising her and parading her around on high.
She freed slaves so they would worship her.

I just wish more people appreciated this fact and how her actions in the finale weren't that much of a heel turn.

 

[Timelord79 (he/him)]

I just wish more people appreciated this fact and how her actions in the finale weren't that much of a heel turn.

Yup. It was the people she surrounded herself with who kept her grounded.
Once those people either died, left or betrayed her, there was no one to keep her worst impulses in check.
And she lost everyone, one way or the other.
The last one she felt a connection to was Jon and she messed that one up all on her own.

 

[DigificWriter]

Audiences viewed Dany as a heroic figure because for 71 episodes, the Showrunners who shan't be named drilled it into their heads that they should...

Hence why I described the ending to her story as being a product of gaslighting.

 

[The Nth Doctor]

Audiences viewed Dany as a heroic figure because for 71 episodes, the Showrunners who shan't be named drilled it into their heads that they should...

Hence why I described the ending to her story as being a product of gaslighting.

Only if you weren't paying attention, as highlighted by TimeIsAPredator's and Timelord79's posts.

 

[DigificWriter]

Only if you weren't paying attention, as highlighted by TimeIsAPredator's and Timelord79's posts.

In one of the Inside the Episode featurettes from Season 6, "they who shan't be named" literally described actions that Dany took that resulted in multiple deaths using the term "heroic".

That's not a case of the audience not paying attention; it's a case of the people making the show deliberately and intentionally telling the audience how to feel about a character's actions even when said actions could be interpreted in a negative light.

 

[Booji]

Dany fans sound like fans of the sportsball team who lose in a championship game and start complaining about the refs, turf or Taylor Swift. Since the game didn't end how they wanted all of a sudden the writing and production stinks.

 

[DigificWriter]

Dany fans sound like fans of the sportsball team who lose in a championship game and start complaining about the refs, turf or Taylor Swift. Since the game didn't end how they wanted all of a sudden the writing and production stinks.

This analogy doesn't work because the evidence of the Showrunners repeatedly lying to the audience about Dany's role in the story and the nature of her character was openly documented on video for all to see.

 

[Timelord79 (he/him)]

Dany DID heroic things. But her motivation was always rooted in a savior identity. And she desired to be recognized as such. until she lived long enough to become the villain.