I was wondering when someone was gonna do that. Only thing missing is a trollface over Martin's.
Game of Thrones 1.9 - "Baelor" - Rate and discuss
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Nothing is missing on the Internet:I was wondering when someone was gonna do that. Only thing missing is a trollface over Martin's.
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That comparison sprung to my mind when I first read the book - the good and noble lord drawn from his stronghold with a dangerous new political position who's then done in by a vile, scheming rival royal house.
Well, if by grow you mean...
get themselves killed, scattered across the world, and have their family home and seat of power burned by a former ally
... then you're entirely correct.
Seriously, I get where you're coming from, but it just seems like a funny way of putting it.
I actually read all four books mostly because I knew if I wanted to discuss this show online I knew I'd be better off reading the books beforehand (and thus I'd be also spoiler-proof). I finished A Feast for Crows on the Sunday the show began airing in the US, which was certainly timely.
Yep, I mean exactly that.
Well, if by grow you mean...
get themselves killed, scattered across the world, and have their family home and seat of power burned by a former ally
... then you're entirely correct.
Yep, I mean exactly that.
Hey, some people haven't read the books so I'm like wording ambiguously.
Sorry. You're right, I don't think there was any reason for me to be mad about your comment.
But, a few things in general bug me about these threads for TV shows that adapt older material. There's, the obvious spoiler dumps where people are just being assholes, of course. Sometimes they actually try to rationalize that bullshit with something like, "How can it be a spoiler, the book came out 5 years ago!"
Then you have the sort of things where someone speculates on the plot and some book-tard just has to comment like "oh not even close"... Or maybe someone comments on a character and someone will post "oh but wait to see what he does in book 3!"
I guess even if there aren't spoilers in a comment, there's still people in these threads who've read the source material who feel the need to try to steer the conversation based on what they read. If you know what's going to happen in the story, why even comment under the guise of speculation? It seems to me it would make more sense to discuss and nit-pick the TV show in a thread about the books.
I can't say that's been happening with these threads, as I've only looked at a couple, and only after reading the books. But off the top of my head, I abandoned the threads for The Walking Dead and True Blood because they were just bad places for TV only viewers to be.
But, a few things in general bug me about these threads for TV shows that adapt older material. There's, the obvious spoiler dumps where people are just being assholes, of course. Sometimes they actually try to rationalize that bullshit with something like, "How can it be a spoiler, the book came out 5 years ago!"
Then you have the sort of things where someone speculates on the plot and some book-tard just has to comment like "oh not even close"... Or maybe someone comments on a character and someone will post "oh but wait to see what he does in book 3!"
I guess even if there aren't spoilers in a comment, there's still people in these threads who've read the source material who feel the need to try to steer the conversation based on what they read. If you know what's going to happen in the story, why even comment under the guise of speculation? It seems to me it would make more sense to discuss and nit-pick the TV show in a thread about the books.
I can't say that's been happening with these threads, as I've only looked at a couple, and only after reading the books. But off the top of my head, I abandoned the threads for The Walking Dead and True Blood because they were just bad places for TV only viewers to be.
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honestly if I hadn't read the books, there is no way in hell I'd ever be involved with any online discussion threads about this particular show. I'd literally only reviews by non-readers (like Alan Sepinwall's blog, ignoring the comments).
People are just so obnoxious with spoilers. Even hinting and making stupid comments confirming or denying.
People are just so obnoxious with spoilers. Even hinting and making stupid comments confirming or denying.
Yeah, not really sure what you're asking for at this point. If you've read the source material, are you not allowed to comment at ALL, for fear you might say something that vaguely resembles something that might give a hint to some minor plot point in an episode that airs 3 years from now?
Good form to not blantantly toss stuff out, but the people that have read the books are ALSO watching the series, and have a right to comment on it as well. If they mistakenly use the wrong tense when talking about someone, or laugh a little when a newbie to the series speculates about how Ned's reign as king is going to go (or whatever), who's really at fault? When no one knows the answer to something, it's fun to play around with it and try to guess. When 75% of the people in a thread KNOW the answer, tough to avoid wrecking it. Gotta either just skip the thread, the posts where people guess things (which means no point to guess, no one can respond to it), or just post cryptic bullshit every time.
If you're THAT anxious to avoid any possible hint of a spoiler, probably best to avoid any threads at all that pertain to it until you're caught up, accidents happen. Why is it on everyone ELSE to protect YOUR enjoyment of something? Best effort and all, but ultimately taking a risk if you jump into something late and insist on discussing it online. Getting mad at something that's in spoiler tags, of all things, is just lunacy.
These books have been out for quite a while, feel free to catch up if you feel left out. Probably the right thing to do if you're enjoying the series anyway. Besides, newest book should be out any time now, so if you don't get going, you'll be even FURTHER behind
Good form to not blantantly toss stuff out, but the people that have read the books are ALSO watching the series, and have a right to comment on it as well. If they mistakenly use the wrong tense when talking about someone, or laugh a little when a newbie to the series speculates about how Ned's reign as king is going to go (or whatever), who's really at fault? When no one knows the answer to something, it's fun to play around with it and try to guess. When 75% of the people in a thread KNOW the answer, tough to avoid wrecking it. Gotta either just skip the thread, the posts where people guess things (which means no point to guess, no one can respond to it), or just post cryptic bullshit every time.
If you're THAT anxious to avoid any possible hint of a spoiler, probably best to avoid any threads at all that pertain to it until you're caught up, accidents happen. Why is it on everyone ELSE to protect YOUR enjoyment of something? Best effort and all, but ultimately taking a risk if you jump into something late and insist on discussing it online. Getting mad at something that's in spoiler tags, of all things, is just lunacy.
These books have been out for quite a while, feel free to catch up if you feel left out. Probably the right thing to do if you're enjoying the series anyway. Besides, newest book should be out any time now, so if you don't get going, you'll be even FURTHER behind
Well, I think personally at this point I'm not asking for anything. I just like to bitch 
Anyway, I have read the books, otherwise I'd be avoiding these threads like the plague. I don't know how many TV only viewers do the same, or what percent of people in these threads have read the books. In the real world it sure seems like there are more TV only viewers than reader/viewers, and the "annoying book guy" would generally be excluded from the water cooler discussions.
Anyway, I have read the books, otherwise I'd be avoiding these threads like the plague. I don't know how many TV only viewers do the same, or what percent of people in these threads have read the books. In the real world it sure seems like there are more TV only viewers than reader/viewers, and the "annoying book guy" would generally be excluded from the water cooler discussions.
On some forums there are threads meant only for viewers who haven't read the books so that they can speculate about what they think will happen without book readers spoiling the discussion, and the really pathetic thing is that some of the "speculation" is so on the money that it's obvious it's a book reader posing as a TV only viewer so that their supposed guesses look just genius down the line.
I'd agree that any kind of discussion about Game of Thrones if you haven't read the books is risking something and again, that's why I did actually read the books.
In practice, though, I think we can avoid spoilers if we simply use spoiler text. These threads have been better than some I've seen.
Hilarious and also true example:
I try to avoid writing book spoilers outside of spoiler code, although I'm not above telling background details. I don't think it's a spoiler to point out where Stannis Baratheon currently is or what land Renly Baratheon owns - or, say, how old the Stark dynasty is - that's just part of the background the series hasn't got into yet.
One's personal judgement here varies, of course.
I've seen a lot of that, too.
Side note: There's been literally no mention of the children of the forest so far. I'm not that surprised, really, the series has a ton of stuff to cover, but it's interesting to note.
In practice, though, I think we can avoid spoilers if we simply use spoiler text. These threads have been better than some I've seen.
Hilarious and also true example:
After Syrio Forel is left holding a broken wooden sword at the start of the eighth episode, some non-book reading fans on a newbie-only thread speculate whether or not he's really dead and what happened to him.
Then a book reader comes by and politely tells them something he insists isn't a spoiler: Syrio Forel is not heard from again in all the books to date, although there are people who are convinced he's maybe alive. So same deal as far as info goes.
The newbie understandably flips out, with the oblivious book reader not copping to the fact he'd just explicitly said we wouldn't see Syrio Forel again this season, the next season, the season after that - which kind of, you know, constitutes spoilers.
Incidentally really people Syrio is dead and I'll be disappointed if he's not.
Then a book reader comes by and politely tells them something he insists isn't a spoiler: Syrio Forel is not heard from again in all the books to date, although there are people who are convinced he's maybe alive. So same deal as far as info goes.
The newbie understandably flips out, with the oblivious book reader not copping to the fact he'd just explicitly said we wouldn't see Syrio Forel again this season, the next season, the season after that - which kind of, you know, constitutes spoilers.
Incidentally really people Syrio is dead and I'll be disappointed if he's not.
I try to avoid writing book spoilers outside of spoiler code, although I'm not above telling background details. I don't think it's a spoiler to point out where Stannis Baratheon currently is or what land Renly Baratheon owns - or, say, how old the Stark dynasty is - that's just part of the background the series hasn't got into yet.
One's personal judgement here varies, of course.
I've seen a lot of that, too.
Side note: There's been literally no mention of the children of the forest so far. I'm not that surprised, really, the series has a ton of stuff to cover, but it's interesting to note.
Life imitates art: Game of Thrones Actor Stabbed While Defending Girlfriend
The best line: "Bean returned to the bar and was treated with first aid. He then ordered another drink, according to the report."
The best line: "Bean returned to the bar and was treated with first aid. He then ordered another drink, according to the report."
As someone who has possibly been guilty of the "wait till what happens in book 3" or "oh not even close" kind of stuff, I just want to apologize if I have upset anyone. When I've done that I haven't done it out of an attempt to ruin anything, it's just hard for me to ignore stuff like that.
When the season began I started the spoiler thread (which you can find here), so if anything comes up in these threads that book readers, or those who want to be spoiled about what's coming up, want to discuss they can do so without these threads getting clogged with spoiler code. Bear it in mind if anything springs to mind that you want to discuss there.