Galaxy class

[James Wright]

I'm stumped by something Tasha Yar said in "Yesterday's Enterprise". when she stated the number of troops carried by the Enterprise-D, did she say 6,000 or 6,500 troops? Why didn't she say 15,000(at least a division), and the total number of people that the Galaxy class can evacuate?

James

 

[CTM]

I'm stumped by something Tasha Yar said in "Yesterday's Enterprise". when she stated the number of troops carried by the Enterprise-D, did she say 6,000 or 6,500 troops? Why didn't she say 15,000(at least a division), and the total number of people that the Galaxy class can evacuate?

James

I imagine a war-time footing on a Galaxy equipped for fighting will have a much larger crew - combat is an inherently labor-intensive activity, and you will have many more people to do what can be done by automation - because you cannot rely on automation in combat. Also, and evacuation is a "pick 'em up, move 'em, drop 'em off" sort of activity. Marines are stationed aboard, and will need longer-term support, further cutting into that 15,000 capacity. That's my excuse, and I'm sticking with it for now.

 

[Mark_Nguyen]

Their Enterprise was probably not a troop carrier. Five thousand (or whatever) is probably the safe number of people the ship could carry when configured for planetary assault or infantry ops. And remember, it's those thousands PLUS their gear, reasonably comfortable barracks, briefing, training, maintenance, transportation, casualty, and muster facilities. Lots of stuff.

We've previously discussed that the Galaxy's evac limit of 15,000 is probably not based on the physical number of people they can sqeeeze into every nook and cranny of the ship. Rather, it's factored in with how many people the ship's systems can safely maintain for transit without overly taxing life support (including air, food, waste extraction, and so forth). The International Space Station orbiting over our heads has the volume of a passenger jet, but it's not designed to safely accomodate more than 13-14 people at a time (usally it's six). Same thing with starships, just scaled way up.

Mark

EDIT - Ahhh! Genius simulposts!

 

[James Wright]

What was the number of troops quoted by Tasha Yar, I'm thinking she said 6,000?

James

 

[Plecostomus]

I don't recall but it was between 5,000 and 6,000.

GLEE! An excuse to watch the episode again!

 

[Birdog]

GLEE! An excuse to watch the episode again!

You actually needed one?

 

[Ryan Thomas Riddle]

I'm stumped by something Tasha Yar said in "Yesterday's Enterprise". when she stated the number of troops carried by the Enterprise-D, did she say 6,000 or 6,500 troops? Why didn't she say 15,000(at least a division), and the total number of people that the Galaxy class can evacuate?

James

Per Memory Alpha:

The Enterprise-D in this alternate timeline was the first of the Galaxy-class warships constructed by the Federation, capable of carrying over 6,000 troops.

http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/USS_Enterprise_(NCC-1701-D)

 

[Unicron]

I was gonna say around 6,000, rather than 6,500. One of my all time favorite eps.

It is interesting that FASA's RPG gave the Galaxy a much higher armament than stated by canonical sources. It's tempting to think this could be an alternate configuration in time of war, though certainly it would require significant refitting. But the ship would have more offensive punch.

 

[James Wright]

Wonder why they went with 6,000 instead of 15,000!?

James

 

[kv1at3485]

Wonder why they went with 6,000 instead of 15,000!?

James

Did you even read the thread?!

 

[James Wright]

Sure did, the only referance to 15000 is from the DS9 tech manual.
I meant when the episode was written, if the Galaxy class can evac 15000 in an emergency why didn't they say 15000 troops in the alternate timeline?
Was there ever any mention of how many people could be evacuated on a Galaxy class starship on screen?

James

 

[kv1at3485]

I meant when the episode was written, if the Galaxy class can evac 15000 in an emergency why didn't they say 15000 troops in the alternate timeline?

Looks like you missed the third post entirely. An unintended oversight, no doubt.

 

[James Wright]

If I overlook any posts I apologise!
What does the E-D tech manual say on the subject of total number of evacuees?(I seem to have misplaced my referance books!)

James

 

[Tigger]

It's possible the Galaxy Class could shuttle 15,000 troops from one system to another, provided it then dropped every last one of them off and then went on it's way, leaving all 15,000 troops behind on the objective.

However, a Galaxy Class starship is not designed, nor is it capable of, actively barracking 15,000 troops on a continual basis. It lacks the facilities and consumables to do so.

 

[SonicRanger]

Wonder why they went with 6,000 instead of 15,000!?

As other have already postulated in this thread, 15,000 might be the total number of evacuees you can cram onto the ship quite uncomfortably in all the cargo bays for a short hop to the next star system ("Cram in there, or die on the surface!"). About 6000 people is probably max number the alt-Ent-D can hold as crew and troops for the long term once all the science labs have been stripped out of the design.