Galaxy Class Starship: Could it cut it in the Delta Quadant

[Spawn]

Re: Galaxy Class Starship: Could it cut it in the Delta Quad

The Galaxy class is several times larger and has atleast 850 more crew members. In addition the uprated class from the dominion war could acheive warp 9.9 and would have a vastly larger fuel store as well as spare parts and torpedo storage as they were designed as long range explorer vessels.

 

[broberfett]

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Now I'm really wishing Voyager would have been a Galaxy class.

 

[The Old Mixer]

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I think the point of the Voyager design was scaling it down so that it had more limited resources and thus might not have it so easy. Not that it wound up showing.

 

[broberfett]

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Why the hell don't trek ships go in convoys or fleets anyway? Didn't Battleships in the past travel with other ships?

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

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^ They do, but mostly in wartime (we saw a lot of that on DS9).

 

[USS Excelsior]

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To make a long story short, the Galaxy Class starship would have to have the same luck against the odds that Voyager had.

To be that miracle ship, or the Galaxy class ship could have been destroyed at any time.

 

[CDP]

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Nebusj said:

CDP said:
As we know, the saucer is capable of atmospheric re-entry, but is not desined for use afterwards.

I don't see how that's established. The saucer wasn't salvageable after Generations, but that was also after a reentry in which the ship had essentially no attitude control. In an intentional touchdown, with impulse and warp engines behaving properly, there's no reason to think it wouldn't touch down gently as a shuttle.

Considering that the starship can meet the energy required to go from the corona of a star to interstellar space without flinching, and it can manage the power to jump from within an atmosphere to escape velocity in short order, and that it's obviously able to stand intact under full Earth-normal gravity, I don't see why landing and taking off would be automatically beyond its ability.

Well, as stated previously, and admittedly thinking back about 14-15 yesrs, the manual did say that the saucer would be a write-off due to damage to the spaceframe, or something along those lines.

Any techies out there to settle this?

 

[Alpha Romeo]

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Nebusj said:

CDP said:
As we know, the saucer is capable of atmospheric re-entry, but is not desined for use afterwards.

I don't see how that's established. The saucer wasn't salvageable after Generations, but that was also after a reentry in which the ship had essentially no attitude control. In an intentional touchdown, with impulse and warp engines behaving properly, there's no reason to think it wouldn't touch down gently as a shuttle.

Considering that the starship can meet the energy required to go from the corona of a star to interstellar space without flinching, and it can manage the power to jump from within an atmosphere to escape velocity in short order, and that it's obviously able to stand intact under full Earth-normal gravity, I don't see why landing and taking off would be automatically beyond its ability.

The technical manual says that it's not going to be re-used after re-entry. Besides, use common sense. A saucer section would only be reusable if it landed with its shields intact.

 

[broberfett]

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How would one of those huge DS9 fleets have faired in the Delta Quadrant? Multiple Galaxy class ships plus all those others.

 

[LeadHead]

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^ They would have had the Kazon for breakfast, that's for sure. A big DS9 fleet would have had a lot more versatility, rather than sending a ship on a lone mission, they'd send 12.

 

[Nebusj]

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Alpha Romeo said:
The technical manual says that it's not going to be re-used after re-entry. Besides, use common sense. A saucer section would only be reusable if it landed with its shields intact.

The technical manual says many things which are highly amusing. Why do you imagine that landing is somehow necessarily incompatible with shields being intact?

Shuttles can land on a feather in the exceedingly rare episode when they do not crash; what technology is available to them which is unavailable to the saucer? Or for that matter the whole ship?

 

[Korczynski]

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Nebusj said:

Alpha Romeo said:
The technical manual says that it's not going to be re-used after re-entry. Besides, use common sense. A saucer section would only be reusable if it landed with its shields intact.

The technical manual says many things which are highly amusing. Why do you imagine that landing is somehow necessarily incompatible with shields being intact?

Shuttles can land on a feather in the exceedingly rare episode when they do not crash; what technology is available to them which is unavailable to the saucer? Or for that matter the whole ship?

Landing pads.

 

[Sisu]

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Landing thrusters.

 

[The Old Mixer]

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A lot less mass?

 

[FordSVT]

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LCARS 24 said:
Not to mention, it was clearly stated that Voyager was faster than a Galaxy-class starship (VOY: Relativity).

It's definitely faster, but as the voyage back to the Alpa quadrant Voyager took was largely due to galactic shortcuts, the intervention of other races, and "hot rodding" the ship, I don't see how it would make much of a difference in the end.

The Galaxy is better equipped, more powerful, and designed for deep-space exploration.

Oh, and it's computers can't be taken out by cheese.

 

[broberfett]

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I missed that whole cheese episode with the computer. How does the Enterprise compare in size? It is all models, but what are the dimensions supposed to be in comparison?

Imagine how much more difficult it would be to invade the ship too. The Families thing was dumb though.

 

[The Old Mixer]

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In volume, the Intrepid class is pretty similar to the Constitution. It lacks the neck section, so it only has 15 decks.

The Galaxy has 42 decks, and I'd imagine several times the volume.

 

[broberfett]

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I just wanted to hear the official stuff, but if you watch the show, there is a line on the Intrepid, on the outside that seems to show each deck of the Saucer section. You can look at the windows and I believe they have even showed cast members in a windows, so we know their size. The saucer looks like it only has 5 or 6 decks. We can also look at the shuttle bay and compare that too. The Intrepid is pretty small.

When the two Galaxy class ships are fighting the Cardassians in Sacrifice of Angels and they both hit that one Cardassian ship, I got the impression that it was quite large.

 

[The Old Mixer]

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It's very much official if you were paying attention to such details when watching. Each ship had a prominently-displayed cutaway diagram showing the number of decks, and there were various references to deck numbers in the series. Those numbers are as official as it gets.

 

[broberfett]

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Went to Memory Alpha-Voyager site. It has a schematic.
http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/USS_Voyager

15 decks