Galaxy Class Starship: Could it cut it in the Delta Quadant
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I'd say that the Galaxy would have a significant advantage in terms of resources...had Voyager ever paid more than lip service to that issue. For example, a Galaxy actually could have lost all the shuttles that Voyager did without needing to build more. The Galaxy was said to be equipped to run in space for something like 22 years without resupply...and it had families aboard, which would have allowed for the raising of a new generation (another issue that was largely ignored by VGR). It would likely have more security personnel. And I'm not sure why the location of the captain's quarters would be an issue...I can't recall that it ever was one on VGR.
And it was established on TNG that the holodecks ran off the same power as all of the other systems, so if they were playing the VGR conceit of having to conserve energy, they'd actually have to turn those damn things off, thus better selling the premise of the show.
And it was established on TNG that the holodecks ran off the same power as all of the other systems, so if they were playing the VGR conceit of having to conserve energy, they'd actually have to turn those damn things off, thus better selling the premise of the show.
Re: Galaxy Class Starship: Could it cut it in the Delta Quad
Good points on the Galaxy's advantages, in that as TNG premiered it was designed for a long-term, generations long deep space exploration assignments. And by its capabilities in TNG it was pretty much second to none.
However, I am a bit concerned about how manuverable and stealthy a Galaxy would be, and how it would have fared in a starbase-less, supply-less environment. Considering how large it was, it may have become a preferable option to settle on some DQ planet instead.
It comes down to not having seen the Galaxy class as a solitary ship against a season's worth of Kazon attacks, or transversing Borg space, or hunted by the Hirogen. But I'm not selling the Galaxy short...although I would far prefer to be in the uprated Dominion War era models, with fully equipped interiors.
Good points on the Galaxy's advantages, in that as TNG premiered it was designed for a long-term, generations long deep space exploration assignments. And by its capabilities in TNG it was pretty much second to none.
However, I am a bit concerned about how manuverable and stealthy a Galaxy would be, and how it would have fared in a starbase-less, supply-less environment. Considering how large it was, it may have become a preferable option to settle on some DQ planet instead.
It comes down to not having seen the Galaxy class as a solitary ship against a season's worth of Kazon attacks, or transversing Borg space, or hunted by the Hirogen. But I'm not selling the Galaxy short...although I would far prefer to be in the uprated Dominion War era models, with fully equipped interiors.
Re: Galaxy Class Starship: Could it cut it in the Delta Quad
Well, the first thing that comes to mind for me is: Who would win in a fight between Voyager and a Galaxy-class ship (i.e. which is the better overall ship?) I don't actually know that much about Voyager, and while the obvious answer may be the Galaxy-class ship, I seem to remember hearing several things about how Voyager really was very powerful.
Thoughts?
I think the answer to the question might help to answer how a Galaxy-class ship would do in the Delta Quadrant.
Well, the first thing that comes to mind for me is: Who would win in a fight between Voyager and a Galaxy-class ship (i.e. which is the better overall ship?) I don't actually know that much about Voyager, and while the obvious answer may be the Galaxy-class ship, I seem to remember hearing several things about how Voyager really was very powerful.
Thoughts?
I think the answer to the question might help to answer how a Galaxy-class ship would do in the Delta Quadrant.
Re: Galaxy Class Starship: Could it cut it in the Delta Quad
In terms of shielding and firepower I'm guessing the Galaxy and Intrepid class ships are very well evenly matched. The Galaxy in sheer size, and the Intrepid in its effort to pack the same level of tech into a smaller package.
I'm guessing the Galaxy would win, but after some pretty heavy damage to it.
The AGT "Galaxy X" class on the other hand would wipe the floor with both of them, and should have been the ship out there stuck in the Delta Quadrant.
In terms of shielding and firepower I'm guessing the Galaxy and Intrepid class ships are very well evenly matched. The Galaxy in sheer size, and the Intrepid in its effort to pack the same level of tech into a smaller package.
I'm guessing the Galaxy would win, but after some pretty heavy damage to it.
The AGT "Galaxy X" class on the other hand would wipe the floor with both of them, and should have been the ship out there stuck in the Delta Quadrant.
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The Galaxy class ship is a huge battleship like vessal with all the luxury of a cruise ship and the labs of a science station. The Voyager sucks ass in everyway in comparison. As far as stealth-it doesn't need it. The worst threat would have been the holodecks making super killing machines by accident or if they ate Nelix's cooking.
The Voyager should have been able to run for years without power being an issue. They just wanted to do the lost in space thing instead of Federation comfort.
The Galaxy class ship is a huge battleship like vessal with all the luxury of a cruise ship and the labs of a science station. The Voyager sucks ass in everyway in comparison. As far as stealth-it doesn't need it. The worst threat would have been the holodecks making super killing machines by accident or if they ate Nelix's cooking.
The Voyager should have been able to run for years without power being an issue. They just wanted to do the lost in space thing instead of Federation comfort.
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The Captain's Quarters would be moved in towards the center of the saucer section for safety and security in case some wicked aliens managed to attack the ship. A sleeping Captain in his cabin on the forward part of deck 9 would simply be a security risk. Stranded out in the Delta Quadrant a Starship losing it's Captain would be a disastrous situation. Having a smallwer set of quarters similar to what Data's were would make sense. If he fel tteh need they could be joined to the cabin next to it by the Captain. Having Picard's quarters where they were and having the Bridge where it is is a Safety issue. If it were all real.
The Captain's Quarters would be moved in towards the center of the saucer section for safety and security in case some wicked aliens managed to attack the ship. A sleeping Captain in his cabin on the forward part of deck 9 would simply be a security risk. Stranded out in the Delta Quadrant a Starship losing it's Captain would be a disastrous situation. Having a smallwer set of quarters similar to what Data's were would make sense. If he fel tteh need they could be joined to the cabin next to it by the Captain. Having Picard's quarters where they were and having the Bridge where it is is a Safety issue. If it were all real.
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Regarding sickbay, the Galaxy class did not have an EMH
Regarding sickbay, the Galaxy class did not have an EMH
Re: Galaxy Class Starship: Could it cut it in the Delta Quad
It also had a larger medical staff, and numerous holodecks, each of which could support an emergency medical staff.
The advantage of the GCS over the Intrepid is redundancy; it may not do any one thing better than the Intrepid, but it can do it more readily, more often, and for longer durations than the Intrepid. Larger fuel stores would make shortages like "Demon" less likely. Medical staff could defect to become opera stars without seriously impacting crew readiness. Torpedoes could be used more often, ending battles faster and reducing battle damage to the ship. Saucer separation could be used in innovative ways.
The Intrepid's advantage is that it's warp core ejection system seems to actually work sometimes. And it can land; the GCS's ability to set down on a planet and take off again is still a matter of some discussion. (It is reasonable to believe it can, but it has never been seen doing it.)
It also had a larger medical staff, and numerous holodecks, each of which could support an emergency medical staff.
The advantage of the GCS over the Intrepid is redundancy; it may not do any one thing better than the Intrepid, but it can do it more readily, more often, and for longer durations than the Intrepid. Larger fuel stores would make shortages like "Demon" less likely. Medical staff could defect to become opera stars without seriously impacting crew readiness. Torpedoes could be used more often, ending battles faster and reducing battle damage to the ship. Saucer separation could be used in innovative ways.
The Intrepid's advantage is that it's warp core ejection system seems to actually work sometimes. And it can land; the GCS's ability to set down on a planet and take off again is still a matter of some discussion. (It is reasonable to believe it can, but it has never been seen doing it.)
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Who thinks the GCS can land (and take off again under its' own steam)???
I think it is absolutely safe to say that this is an impossibility.
As we know, the saucer is capable of atmospheric re-entry, but is not desined for use afterwards.
On a practicle note, if the GCS set down on a planet similar to an intrepid, it would tip over, due to the vast difference in both size and mass of the saucer versus the stardrive section..
I used to own the TNG tech manual, and it is specified in there regarding sucer re-entry, and it has no mention of landing capability. However, have no looked at thi for approx 15 years,but am pretty sure I'm on solid ground here (no pun intended).
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Who thinks the GCS can land (and take off again under its' own steam)???
I think it is absolutely safe to say that this is an impossibility.
As we know, the saucer is capable of atmospheric re-entry, but is not desined for use afterwards.
On a practicle note, if the GCS set down on a planet similar to an intrepid, it would tip over, due to the vast difference in both size and mass of the saucer versus the stardrive section..
I used to own the TNG tech manual, and it is specified in there regarding sucer re-entry, and it has no mention of landing capability. However, have no looked at thi for approx 15 years,but am pretty sure I'm on solid ground here (no pun intended).
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Re: Galaxy Class Starship: Could it cut it in the Delta Quad
Not to mention, it was clearly stated that Voyager was faster than a Galaxy-class starship (VOY: Relativity).
Not to mention, it was clearly stated that Voyager was faster than a Galaxy-class starship (VOY: Relativity).
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After reading more of the comments, I'm in agreement with most of you - a Galaxy-class starship is more self-sufficient and would do at least as well (if not noticeably better) than Voyager did. I would have liked to have seen it onscreen actually - how much better and more quickly would a Galaxy-class starship have been able to deal with some of those problems out there?
I think the comments about the increased security and medical officers can't be said enough - it would have made a huge difference to the morale of the crew and they would have been able to do some things that Voyager would not have been able to.
After reading more of the comments, I'm in agreement with most of you - a Galaxy-class starship is more self-sufficient and would do at least as well (if not noticeably better) than Voyager did. I would have liked to have seen it onscreen actually - how much better and more quickly would a Galaxy-class starship have been able to deal with some of those problems out there?
I think the comments about the increased security and medical officers can't be said enough - it would have made a huge difference to the morale of the crew and they would have been able to do some things that Voyager would not have been able to.
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Though it would take longer on their own to make it home, as the Galaxy was indeed slower... they'd still have an easier time surviving out there.
Plus Picard isn't afraid to ask Q for help. They'd be home by end of the first season out there, no question.
Plus Picard would have left a detonator behind with the Caretaker, so he would have made it home AND destroyed it.
Plus Picard...
Though it would take longer on their own to make it home, as the Galaxy was indeed slower... they'd still have an easier time surviving out there.
Plus Picard isn't afraid to ask Q for help. They'd be home by end of the first season out there, no question.
Plus Picard would have left a detonator behind with the Caretaker, so he would have made it home AND destroyed it.
Plus Picard...
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Considering that the starship can meet the energy required to go from the corona of a star to interstellar space without flinching, and it can manage the power to jump from within an atmosphere to escape velocity in short order, and that it's obviously able to stand intact under full Earth-normal gravity, I don't see why landing and taking off would be automatically beyond its ability.
I don't see how that's established. The saucer wasn't salvageable after Generations, but that was also after a reentry in which the ship had essentially no attitude control. In an intentional touchdown, with impulse and warp engines behaving properly, there's no reason to think it wouldn't touch down gently as a shuttle.
Considering that the starship can meet the energy required to go from the corona of a star to interstellar space without flinching, and it can manage the power to jump from within an atmosphere to escape velocity in short order, and that it's obviously able to stand intact under full Earth-normal gravity, I don't see why landing and taking off would be automatically beyond its ability.
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I love those DS9 shots of that Galaxy class coming up from under the Cardassian ship and shooting it with its phaser. Screencaps will be cool if you have them. Those DS9 battles were movie worthy and better than any action they had in the movies.
I love those DS9 shots of that Galaxy class coming up from under the Cardassian ship and shooting it with its phaser. Screencaps will be cool if you have them. Those DS9 battles were movie worthy and better than any action they had in the movies.
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Like here:
http://ds9.trekcore.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=63&pos=91
Like here:
http://ds9.trekcore.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=63&pos=91
Re: Galaxy Class Starship: Could it cut it in the Delta Quad
That was never an issue on Voyager, so why would it be an issue with a Galaxy-class ship?
