Future technology...what was done with it?

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  1. Gamma_Quadrant

    Gamma_Quadrant Lieutenant Junior Grade Red Shirt

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    In "Endgame", the USS Voyager brought back technology from the future (early 25th century, I think). What do you all think happen to it? Star Trek: Nemesis, which takes place after "Endgame", didn't mention it at all. I was just curious if any sources said what had happened to it. Does anyone have any theories?
     
  2. bryce

    bryce Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Yeah, why don't all Starfleet vessels have that cool Borg shielding and transphasic torpedoes???
     
  3. UssHell

    UssHell Lieutenant Red Shirt

    One, it wasn't borg shielding, it was federation abbitave armor tech.

    And Two: a stright-forward answear; The federation temporal investagations (NOT THE 29th CENTURY ONES) seised them. Unknow what was done to the torps or armor. Also, propably other alpha-quad powers put pressures for SF to do this, because that kind of adv armor tech and torps would have caused a great power-shift in AQ (Alpha Quadrent)
     
  4. Gamma_Quadrant

    Gamma_Quadrant Lieutenant Junior Grade Red Shirt

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    Was that officially said UssHell or are you guessing? I'm not criticizing, I'm just curious.

    Do the books (yes, I know they're not canon) mention what happened to them? I know a few books took place after "Endgame".
     
  5. Kevin

    Kevin Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    well, they probably created a paradox by returning. because they returned Janeway was never in the Delta Quadrant long enough to develop the technology the other Janeway did. Therefore the future Janeway never was there to come back and help voyager escape, therefore the present Janeway became thee future Janeway and helped voyager get home. and creating the paradox all over again. That's why Time travel sucks so bad. In reality there would be so many F'in paradoxs it is not e==ven funny. They time travel a ton in that show.
     
  6. Gamma_Quadrant

    Gamma_Quadrant Lieutenant Junior Grade Red Shirt

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    That's an interesting premise, Kevin, but I don't think Trek time travel works that way. :p

    I think in Trek, there was no paradox of Janeway returning earlier and she didn't have to "create" the technology, as Voyager already had it and Starfleet could strip mine it. I think the only "change" would be that Janeway and Seven don't create it, as it is already there.

    I wonder if Star Trek: Online, which takes places years after Nemesis, will mention it. :confused:
     
  7. Equinox

    Equinox Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Either Temporal Investigations people come back and seize the hardware/software Janeway acquired (like someone else mentioned) or the futuristic technology prompts the Federation to CREATE the Temporal Investigations unit in order to keep potentially harmful stuff like this out of the wrong hands.

    I highly doubt it would be integrated into current-era ship designs because it could be too easily stolen/modified by enemies. You wouldn't want Romulans or the Dominion using future tech weapons/defense systems.
     
  8. Gamma_Quadrant

    Gamma_Quadrant Lieutenant Junior Grade Red Shirt

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    Yeah, I agree with the consensus that it was not mass produced. I just wish a definitive answer had been given.
     
  9. nx1701g

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    Nothing has been said canonly what happened to the Endgame technology.

    In the brief Voyager Relaunch all future technology was turned over to Starfleet Intelligence's Department of Temporal Investigations.
     
  10. Kevin

    Kevin Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    that always makes me mad. Too have starfleet tech so easily stolen. where s the security?!
     
  11. Gamma_Quadrant

    Gamma_Quadrant Lieutenant Junior Grade Red Shirt

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    Ah, thanks for the answer. I wanted to know what happened to it in the books. So I guess they just dumped it and it fell into obscurity...
     
  12. Jack Bauer

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    Section 31 is probably using it.
     
  13. nx1701g

    nx1701g Admiral Admiral

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    ^ I think they may explore it in the upcoming storyline in the TNG Relaunch dealing with the Borg though.
     
  14. Gamma_Quadrant

    Gamma_Quadrant Lieutenant Junior Grade Red Shirt

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    Really? That's interesting...

    Since you seem to know some stuff about the books, did any of the DS9 relaunch or Titan books mention it?
     
  15. Athlor

    Athlor Cadet Newbie

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    I do think a future Trek should deal with it.
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    Has anybody ever gathered together an inventory of all the technology Voyager brought back?
    I was thinking of doing it by using the Daystrom Institute Technical LIbrary.
     
  16. WalkinMan

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    Which TNG relaunch book deals with the Borg? I looked on Psiphi.org but didn't see that tidbit...
     
  17. nx1701g

    nx1701g Admiral Admiral

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    SPOILERS

    I'm pretty sure - haven't read the recent recent books for DS9 - that DS9 is still before Voyager returned home (actually, now that I think about it, it is because DS9R mentions that the Luna Class is still a few more years away and that Bajor joined the Federation one year after the events of WYLB).

    Titan doesn't have any mentioning of them.

    PsiPhi hasn't been updated in a long time I'm afraid (the listing still has information from August 2006). Here is information on the upcoming Borg book (but I've heard it'll be books).

    Star Trek: The Next Generation: Resistance by J.M. Dillard-
    The U.S.S. Enterpriseā„¢ is ready to rejoin the fleet. The body of the great starship -- which managed to survive the deadly Romulan-Reman attack only with Data's ultimate sacrifice -- has been restored.

    With the departure of first officer William Riker and ship's counselor Deanna Troi, Picard has to replace two of his most trusted advisors. A Vulcan is granted the commission of ship's counselor. Logical and pragmatic, T'Lana is a highly decorated member of Starfleet who served with distinction during the Dominion War. For his Number One, Captain Picard has only one candidate: Worf.

    The captain is looking forward to putting the shadows of war behind him, shaping his new crew, and returning at last to being an explorer. However, the Klingon refuses the promotion. And Picard senses that his new counselor does not approve of Worf.

    Starfleet hands the Enterprise a simple assignment perfect for a shakedown cruise. Picard is confident that this is all he needs to bring his crew together. Before the mission commences, the captain once again hears the song of the Borg Collective. Admiral Janeway is convinced that the Borg have been crushed and are no longer a threat. Picard knows that she is wrong, and if he doesn't act immediately, the entire Federation will be under the domination of its most oppressive enemy.



    "Before Dishonor" (TNG) by PAD, synopsis from Amazon UK:
    To the disbelief of Starfleet Command, and especially of Admiral Janeway, the Borg were not vanquished when the USS Voyager destroyed their transwarp conduits. A disabled Borg cube seems to hold the answers to why the Borg are now striking out and killing, without troubling to assimilate their prey. Admiral Janeway, Seven of Nine and a team of Federation scientists know they don't have much time to stop the threat. Meanwhile Captain Jean-Luc Picard and the crew of the USS Enterprise, who barely defeated the Borg who were trapped in Federation space, turn to Ambassador Spock for help. Can they discover what lies behind these strange and chilling developments before the Borg can make their triumphant return?
     
  18. The Borg Queen

    The Borg Queen Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Um... what? "Domination of its most oppressive enemy"? The Borg don't operate by "dominating" or "oppressing" anyone, they intergrate them into their collective by assimilation.

    Yeah, I already watched the two-parter "Descent" kthxbai.

    Now I see why books aren't considered canon (at best) and badly written fanfiction (at worst).
     
  19. nx1701g

    nx1701g Admiral Admiral

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    ^
    Under this new system the Borg are no longer interested in assimiliating humanity at all because of their failures to do so in the past. Now they just want to destroy them at all costs.