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Future Events in new Re-Boot Era?

nordmoon

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So after the new Re-Boot of the Star Trek timeline with for example no vulcan anymore, how do you think the history of Star Trek will play out in the new timeline to the point to 2409?

Will there be a Dominion War?
Will the Klingon be in peace with the Federation?
How about the Borg?
Will the map of Star Trek (the territories be the same as old ST)?

In a nut shell; What is the effects of the new universe with the new changes, in other how words how important was say the Vulcans influence on the universe?

I am asking because I am considering a rp in the new timeline but I have no idea what to count as really happening in the timeline compared to the old one which is highly documented.
 
The Borg and the Dominion are still out there, Vulcan or no Vulcan. But who knows what chain of events might occur to speed up their introduction into the JJ verse?

In general, I think the Feds will be weaker and probably make worse decisions without the Vulcans in the mix. Some vengeance minded survivors might spark a war with Romulans, or Romulans might take advantage of Fed weakness.

On a more personal note for the TOS characters, Spock is not going to be the same cool, rational, laid-back guy - he'll still be smart and logical but he's going to have more of a struggle, and he'll make more mistakes.
 
This may be a bit of a side issue, but....

Somewhere along the lines in pre-reboot days (in one of the Pocket novels?), it was stated that the Vulcans were responsible for the design of the Constitution refit and that USS Intrepid was the first of that design. In the 'old canon' how much influence did the Vulcans have on Starfleet ship design and, if it was significant, who picks up the slack post-reboot?
 
What we've seen canonically of Vulcan ships and statements onscreen about our relationship with them does not suggest much Vulcan influence - quite the opposite.
 
What we've seen canonically of Vulcan ships and statements onscreen about our relationship with them does not suggest much Vulcan influence - quite the opposite.

Quite....fascinating, isn't it, because we tend to think of Vulcans as being quite artistic in everything they design. To have their influence on ship design be minimal seems rather odd. Then again, there was that rather ungainly looking craft in First Contact....:vulcan:
 
What we've seen canonically of Vulcan ships and statements onscreen about our relationship with them does not suggest much Vulcan influence - quite the opposite.

Quite....fascinating, isn't it, because we tend to think of Vulcans as being quite artistic in everything they design. To have their influence on ship design be minimal seems rather odd. Then again, there was that rather ungainly looking craft in First Contact....:vulcan:

Canon, schmanon. The purpose of this thread is to play what-if. Even if the Vulcs haven't been seen "on screen" much, it's a fair assumption that they have a positive influence on the Federation and Starfleet, specifically increasing wisdom, rationality and non-violent tendencies. Remove them and there will be trouble. And don't we want trouble? That's the whole fun of what-if!

Let's replay everything with Starfleet frakking up because the humans have no adult supervision. :rommie:
 
Let me whip out my Super Secret Paramount Mega Guide to what will be happening with the franchise in the next two decades:

2258: After saving Earth from its near-annihilation due to the very beings who brought about their reality, Kirk, Spock and the rest of the Enterprise crew are given the once-in-each-lifetime opportunity to boldly go where no one has gone before. Along the way, they happen upon strange new worlds, and new civilizations. Scotty gets really excited all the time because the ship is full of drama, and Uhura makes the most difficult decision of her career when she realizes Kirk is hot. On Earth, Starfleet Headquarters greedily devours all surviving pieces of future technology from the Romulans in an effort to assert human dominance throughout the galaxy.

2260: After two years trekking the final frontier, the crew of the Enterprise is slapped upside the head with the painfully obvious realization that the Klingons don't like them. Not one but two planets explode during the course of the short but significant war, and Sulu slays thirty-seven Klingons with his 1337 skills and Asian charms. A last-ditch rush for Qo'Nos to negotiate peace terms before the entire Federation shatters undermines the efforts of the vast majority of psychopathic Klingon warriors when Kirk agrees to cut his hand open and drink his own blood, or something, to show that Starfleet really cares. Kor thinks he's awesome and they become such good friends, Spock gets jealous and Bones angsts for weeks.

2261: The Enterprise crew gets called back from the fringe when a deadly prototype weapon devastates Florida, because it's always Florida, you know. Starfleet blames the Xindi, but Kirk refuses to believe it because he's never even heard of the Xindi. Spock Prime comes back long enough to confirm that he hasn't, either, and then disappears because Leonard Nimoy wouldn't commit to more than a single scene, which is fine, I'm not bitter at all. To prove his suspicions that it's those damned Romulans again, Kirk takes his ship into Romulan territory, where some warbirds show up and beat the crap out of the Enterprise. They leave it inoperable so Kirk devises an awesome plan to abandon ship when the Romulans come aboard, and Spock says that sounds like something he'd do. The ship explodes, and for some mysterious reason the planet they're orbiting above also explodes. Some crucial stuff happens and the crew screw with the Romulans' collective mojo again, but then the Borg show up because they were behind the attacks on the outposts across the Neutral Zone, which Kirk had never even heard of, but whatever. So the Borg are narrowly defeated because of obscure science and Starfleet celebrates. Kirk reiterates that he's never heard of the Xindi and they all share a laugh.

2265: Featured for the fourth time, Kirk and his crew are driving around the Alpha Quadrant at ludicrous speed aboard their new Enterprise-Again when the Borg come back in full force. A bunch of increasingly-ridiculous crap happens, Uhura has Spock's love child, something called V'Ger shows up and is important, and then the Borg are defeated with the reluctant help of the Klingons. The entire ordeal is a mess of convoluted details and Chekov dies for shock effect. It's really annoying.

2268: The Dominion's furthest scouts return, discovering Spock Prime's existence and thus the very nature of their own. Alarmed and disgusted, the Founders push their plans forward by not 200 but a whopping 300 years. Jem'Hadar arrive through the wormhole en masse, but thanks to all the Borg nonsense, the Federation is prepared. Their ships are, like, super-strong. Like, you wouldn't believe it. So gosh-darn strong. Unfortunately, the Dominion wins anyway because victory is life and stuff. Earth explodes at the end of the movie and Kirk comments that he is now a member of an endangered species. Spock, who has secretly never forgiven Kirk for getting all buddy-buddy with that Klingon dude, tells Kirk that it 'hurts, donut' and punches him in the face.

2369: Kira Nerys falls in battle, having resisted the Dominion scourge upon her world her entire life. Terok Nor explodes, and then Bajor explodes. The wormhole explodes, too, though, so the Dominion forces in the Alpha Quadrant get stranded there. Sucks to be them.

2409: The galaxy explodes, because warp technology is bad for you, m'kay?
 
So basically anything could happen. I guess thats why new era rp are set in the kirk time since 'all' previous history in the future might change now?
 
That's not how it works. The film and the producers rather explicitly indicated that the old timeline still exists in another reality. It's just a matter of multiple realities going on in separate dimensions and all that. A sci-fi thing you'll see everywhere no doubt.
 
That's not how it works. The film and the producers rather explicitly indicated that the old timeline still exists in another reality. It's just a matter of multiple realities going on in separate dimensions and all that. A sci-fi thing you'll see everywhere no doubt.

I know, I am talking about the new timeline/universe and the future events .. if it will be similar to the old Trek timeline as we know it or if borg, dominion and all other events will happen or not. If we will see another war or expansion of the Romulan Empire, Klingon Empire etc Basically we have here a chance to remove all parts of the old trek universe that we don't like or that failed. So being said, what would you like to see the Future of this reboot era?

What didnt work with the old Trek timeline?
 
In the 'old canon' how much influence did the Vulcans have on Starfleet ship design and, if it was significant, who picks up the slack post-reboot?

What we've seen canonically of Vulcan ships and statements onscreen about our relationship with them does not suggest much Vulcan influence - quite the opposite.

Quite....fascinating, isn't it, because we tend to think of Vulcans as being quite artistic in everything they design. To have their influence on ship design be minimal seems rather odd. Then again, there was that rather ungainly looking craft in First Contact....:vulcan:
One of the thing that came out of the series Enterprise was that at the time Vulcan ship's moved quite comfortable at warp factor seven, that was the Vulcan ship's cruising speed. Well over a hundred years later, during TOS, the Starship Enterprise moves quite comfortable at warp factor six, that is it's cruising speed. Not only aren't the Vulcan's designing starships, they're not even sharing their old technology with the rest of the Federation.
 
What didnt work with the old Trek timeline?

The producers/writers wanted to give themselves creative latitude and knew that not enough of the viewers would mind - or, frankly, notice - that there would be any significant downside.
 
Well realistically, jj and co tossed everything in the can. So trek is a jump ball at best, at worst they are going to have to some real dumpster diving to pull the next picture off. Beyond that I doubt they have done much thinking on the project at all.

The old days have gone out with a (lense) flare. The old and new are not anywhere near the same animal. So new is the watch word here...lets see what they come up with.
 
I think future movies/series in the Abrams-Trek timeline/universe/continuity should actively try to avoid re-hashing/re-telling existing storylines from the previous versions of Trek.

What's the point of having a whole new sandbox to play in if you're just gonna re-do the same old stuff. Let's have some stories that go new places and meet new people.
 
What happens with the old (pre-reboot) adversaries largely depends on what they can pry out of Spock Prime.

If he shares the secret of the red matter, for example, or Genesis, Starfleet has the power to not really worry about the Borg anymore, or V'Ger, or the Probe. Or, really, the Dominion. Or the Doomsday Machine.
 
You know, I've never actually thought of that before. Still, and not just for the sake of making things entirely too simple, I don't think he'd let much slip.
 
federation and romulans forge and alliance and fight to destroy the klingons who allied with the ferengi.

enterprise gets lost through a wormhole and encounter borg ship, they quickly find allies in the 2 nearby planets who borg have devastated. They fight against the borg ship and manage to destroy it and it the draw of all things, they encounter a wormhole that leads them to planet earth.
 
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