Star Trek: Titan.
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Star Trek: Titan.
You mean the part where the Andorians were split and traded out? I was wondering about that not long ago. I hope it's not one of those abandoned story lines.
What i didn't like about Destiny is that the Borg just went into a destruction frenzy and stopped caring about assimililating technology (Caeliar Tech being an exception).
It would have made more sense for me if they would have taken all the technology they could and after that destroying the populations instead of killing blindly everyone they encounter!
It would have made more sense for me if they would have taken all the technology they could and after that destroying the populations instead of killing blindly everyone they encounter!
I hated everything about the Andorian secession arc, and I would be perfectly fine if it was completely forgotten about, although I guess with zh'Tarash being the president, it's not completely inescapable.
I guess it was an interesting-enough idea, but the majority of it was executed so poorly, it completely ruined Shar, and they glossed over it so quickly that it was utterly pointless. Hard pass.
That part I buy. I'm less convinced that a member that broke away from the Federation would be allowed back in more or less immediately, and I find it completely ridiculous that a politician from that member would be elected to the Federation's highest office immediately after that.
That's just it, though -- it wasn't blind, it was strategic. Before, the Federation had been just one more resource to eventually acquire, its resistance a mere nuisance. But once Voyager destroyed the Borg's transwarp hub and Unicomplex, striking a devastating blow against the Collective, the Federation was upgraded to a serious threat, which required upgrading the Borg's response to that threat. It was no longer worth the risk to try to assimilate their technology; the danger had to be eradicated, period. The Borg adapted their methods to the situation, as they always do. That's the opposite of a blind response.
Although, as I hinted at the end of Greater than the Sum, there may have been an element of vindictiveness to it as well. The Federation had hurt the Borg enough to make them angry, insofar as they were capable of such a thing. The Borg considered themselves to be doing other species a favor by assimilating them into the perfection of the Collective. But now they'd decided that the Federation didn't deserve that perfection. The Borg had given them multiple chances and they'd rejected the offer time and time again, more obnoxiously each time, and ultimately in a way that caused enormous, even crippling damage to the Collective. So the Borg had finally had enough. No more chances at perfection, just get rid of the problem once and for all and move on to assimilating the next advanced technological civilization.
I use "TTN" at work as a three-letter abbreviation for "Titan Comics," for the same reason that fans adopted "TTN" for Star Trek: Titan -- "TIT" seems, well, a bit immature. (My department head questioned me on this some years ago. He told me I didn't have to -- I started doing it on my own -- and I said I didn't want to send out something that seemed "rude.") Suffice it to say, I nicked "TTN" from Star Trek novel fandom.
With next year being TNG's 30th anniversary, I'll be surprised if Data doesn't show up.
TTN is Titan - The last Titan novel set before The Fall, Fallen Gods, involved a cliffhanger involving transporter duplicates of Titan's Andorian crew members. Then The Fall came along and not only did it resolve the ongoing Andorian fertility crisis, it basically propelled the Titan crew a year or two ahead from where they'd been in Fallen Gods.
I am really curious, what do you mean "assigned"? Is there a course on Treklit somewhere out there? Because that sounds really interesting.
Not a course, I work as translator for a publishing house that publishes Star Trek in my country. It is more of a hobby I do in my spare time than an actual job. This novel is not making it enjoyable.
I never liked Choudhury. Probably because she replaced Leybenzon, who I did like.I also recall a very forced passage from early in her tenure that talked about her flying (why was she flying it, I don't recall, am I wrong on this?) the ship in an exceptionally elegant manner. Which is dumb. Starships are a million tons of mass, which means any path they take is going to be on a steady curve. These ships are also highly automated. Figuring out the path that maximizes maneuverability while conserving momentum is both the basic job qualification for *any* pilot of vessels that size and fairly easy to do when many maneuvers are preprogrammed anyway (Execute Pattern Riker Alpha!).
Which is a general complaint I have about the novels, as I just read a similar passage from the 3rd Titan novel. Ships pilots are *not* that important, which is why they usually had ensigns (or even children, Mr. Crusher) flying the ship on the shows.
I was neutral on Kadohata when I read the books 5-6 years ago. I'm a parent now, so maybe she'll connect with me better. I've restarted reading from the A Time To series (all of which I still love) and just finished Q&A (which I loved the first time, now it seems a little short, albeit still fun). Maybe I'll miss her more when she's gone. I like Dygan, but if he ever leaves, I wouldn't mind Miranda coming back.
They switched characters around too much on the Enterprise. They killed many characters who, while flawed, were redeemable. The replacement characters lacked the history of those they replaced, which widened the gap between the onscreen crew and the novel-only characters.
Thankfully, that's stopped. They've stuck with their current group, and given a couple of the characters interesting things to do (Dygan and Chen specifically). But I still dont care about Elfiki or the new security head.
I sure hope so it would be great to have another Data story for TNG 's 30th anniversary.
The Ent-E just needs to get back out there and get some stand-alone books (like Titan did a while back). We've not gotten any time to play with that crew without it being part of a crisis or crossover event. Same thing Picard is complaining about in-series, actually. let's get them out there and get to know them again, give them some planets of the week to explore.
And yeah, the publishing schedule is kinda the problem IMO. Too many diverse options that need servicing at this point. The 5 main series, Titan, Aventine, Bashir/Section31, DTI, New Frontiers every now and then, Data's books, then every now and then we get Cardassian-only books, or political stuff, Klingon stuff, SCE, or a stand-alone book (like the Captain Geordi book, although kinda more SCE too, I guess, just not e-book). Maybe Captain Sisko in the GQ will pop up? We're not settling in with anyone anymore, and just sorta flitting around and covering the bases. If one series gets more attention, means we're not seeing some of the other ones for much longer periods of time.
Feels like we need more than 12/year in order to keep any sort of momentum. Know some of these are 1-author-only, so one a year is kinda the limit, but many of the others aren't, so could be spread out more. Even if we only got up to 18/year instead of a 24/year schedule, you'd be able to touch more of them every 6 months or so, or do a special trilogy without short-changing a series' one-a-year slot, and it would feel like more of the series are moving along rather than treading water.
I like how some of the series are going (VOY and ENT, mostly), it just goes so long between all of the different ones that you forget too much of what's going on. DS9 has fallen back, and finally resolved some 15 year old cliffhangers. They've introduced some interesting new stuff, but I want to see more of it before I forget/don't care what's going on again. TNG needs some time to get out and reintroduce the crew. Still want my TOS books on occasion, but no active plot line, so one a year or a series occasionally is working fine there; I know and am familiar with the crew.
And yeah, the publishing schedule is kinda the problem IMO. Too many diverse options that need servicing at this point. The 5 main series, Titan, Aventine, Bashir/Section31, DTI, New Frontiers every now and then, Data's books, then every now and then we get Cardassian-only books, or political stuff, Klingon stuff, SCE, or a stand-alone book (like the Captain Geordi book, although kinda more SCE too, I guess, just not e-book). Maybe Captain Sisko in the GQ will pop up? We're not settling in with anyone anymore, and just sorta flitting around and covering the bases. If one series gets more attention, means we're not seeing some of the other ones for much longer periods of time.
Feels like we need more than 12/year in order to keep any sort of momentum. Know some of these are 1-author-only, so one a year is kinda the limit, but many of the others aren't, so could be spread out more. Even if we only got up to 18/year instead of a 24/year schedule, you'd be able to touch more of them every 6 months or so, or do a special trilogy without short-changing a series' one-a-year slot, and it would feel like more of the series are moving along rather than treading water.
I like how some of the series are going (VOY and ENT, mostly), it just goes so long between all of the different ones that you forget too much of what's going on. DS9 has fallen back, and finally resolved some 15 year old cliffhangers. They've introduced some interesting new stuff, but I want to see more of it before I forget/don't care what's going on again. TNG needs some time to get out and reintroduce the crew. Still want my TOS books on occasion, but no active plot line, so one a year or a series occasionally is working fine there; I know and am familiar with the crew.
I actually like the fact that we've got so many different stories with different crews and groups all going on right now, it really makes it feel like a big well populated universe. I understand why the shows were limited in scope, but the books have done a great job of expanding that scope beyond just one or two ships.
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