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Fringe: "6:02 AM EST" - 4/22 on FOX - Grading & Discussion

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JRoss said:
Why do people only want mythology episodes? I like breather episodes, as they can take a break from what is sometimes tedious. Too much mythology just builds with no payoff. Remember Lost and Heroes? Those shows are proof that that does not work.
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Just in case this was in part directed at my post: I don't want only mythology episodes. Mentioning the William Bell mini-arc and how it didn't bring the heroes any help with the mythology was mainly because the series has presented Bell as a guy who may have all these answers that Walter doesn't. The recent arc deflates the idea that he'd have any ideas on how to solve this problem.

But I don't think Lost and Heroes are "proof" that all-mythology shows can't work, just that those two didn't (for me).
 
I would prefer it if the First People and the Observers were two different people. I'd rather have two god-like alien races at odds with each other than just one by itself.
 
OsmiumJohnnycake, you are right in that two failed shows are not proof, and I'm sure that it's an argument that I can't completely prove, nor could the converse be definitively proven.

I'll rephrase. In my experience, something that gets too heavily involved in it's own mythology tends to feel too heavy. Lost and Heroes fell victim to this, as did Battlestar Galactica. In opposition to my own argument, I will put forth that some works can support their mythology very well. I feel that the Series of Unfortunate Events books are actually the strongest example of a myth arc that does not let up and yet still satisfies.
 
Okay, it didn't fail commercially. Everything else is a different matter, however.
 
ObiWanShinobi said:
Lost was not a failed show.
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As far as storytelling and conclusions go, it was. The vast majority of the show is left unanswered, and the answers received were insipid, anticlimactic, and hashed together at the last minute.

They can build up to a good story with lots of promise, but that's all they're good at.
 
Great episode. I hadn't been giving the writers enough credit- this whole Doomsday machine thing has went in a different direction than I thought and for the better I'd say.

Now if this were an 80s movie, when Peter wakes up he'd have freaky superpowers. :lol:
 
OsmiumJohnnycake said:
Joshua Jackson looked really great in this episode, sort of like a superhero or something. I don't know, I'm having a hard time putting it into words, but everything about his appearance and posture made him seem almost...regal?
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I was thinking "noble." :) I agree.

The way he was shot, the low camera angles looking up at him...his determination, from that first scene with the machine, to do the right thing, even if it meant dying in the process...little things, like the way he smiled at Walter during the good-bye scene, and the hug he gave Astrid...the way they dressed him at the end, in that cool black jumpsuit. Yeah, superheroic. :techman:
 
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