Fringe 4x12 - "Welcome to Westfield" (Live Commentary, Spoilers)

[Quo Vadimus]

The next glyph is V.

Hmm, it's probably got to be OLIVE since there is probably only one more commercial break.

As a child she was called Olive.

Maybe Nina and David Robert Jones are trying to bring Olivia into resonance with the Olivia from Peter's universe? Maybe they need the Olivia with the "Gift" given to her by the cortexiphan?

I don't know, just riffing here.

Regardless, this was a really good episode!

 

[ManOnTheWave]

I went with excellent. Not only a creepy story I enjoyed, but also seemed to move Olivia's story along a bit. Can't wait for next week, now.

 

[Procutus]

Based on what I saw, I voted 'Very Good'. I'll watch the first half tomorrow.

I still have no idea where they're taking this; I can only hope that Team Abrams has some kind of plan.

 

[Quo Vadimus]

Peter going for the Oliva trifecta!

Strong ending with the town destroyed and that. I wish this world would merge with the Fringe proper one and get us back to normal.

Haha, nice!

 

[Joe Washington]

She remembers! Thank God! She remembers!

This is my theory: I think the medication and drugs Nina has been putting into Olivia's system are there to suppress any memories she has of the orginal timeline including that of her emotional connection to Peter. I think the reason why she has such things despite the change in timeline is because of her unique abilities. I don't know why Nina doesn't want Olivia to remember. Maybe she's a Observer assigned with the task of suppressing a trace of Peter in her. But whatever she has been trying to do to Olivia, I suspect Olivia may not have been taking her meds in a while which allowed her to remember.

Peter doesn't seem happy that Olivia remembers based on the promo of next week's episode. I hope he doesn't do anything stupid.

This episode really gave me the vibe of the good, old days of Fringe when Peter, Olivia, and Walter were working together as a team before the timeline got altered. I was glad to feel it.

 

[Procutus]

^


It did feel a lot like some S1 and S2 eps. Hopefully the trend will continue.

 

[Psion]

Let's not forget that Walter is acting a bit like his old self, too. The timeline is reverting.

 

[TimmyWl]

I thought it was a great episode. I did catch some hints of it when Peter Bishop was talking about his Olivia to AmberOlivia! in the biology lab. I half expected some addled response from Olivia. Then the ending came out of a loop. It is strange that the bike shop was spared.

I must say that the man with the double face that got ejected from the school bus was kind of creepy.

 

[Enterprise is Great]

This must've been what Desmond felt like when he tried to leave the Island and he just sailed around in circles. The outside world just wasn't there as he was in the Island's bubble so he just kept finding the Island over and over again...We're stuck in a bloody snow globe!". I know the idea that you try to leave a place only to arrive back in the same spot has been used in quite a few stories but I do think that this was partly a Lost reference.

The preview last week made it seem like this episode was going to be just a standalone episode so I was pleasantly surprised that it tried into the arc of the season.

 

[Santeria]

Peter doesn't seem happy that Olivia remembers based on the promo of next week's episode. I hope he doesn't do anything stupid.

That's probably because she's not remembering anything, as there was nothing for her to forget. She never met Peter until after he spontaneously appeared in the lake. She didn't forget him whatsoever.

Forgetting something means you fail to remember it. There was nothing to remember.

 

[Procutus]

Forgetting something means you fail to remember it. There was nothing to remember.

That's the confusing thing about this, and one of the reasons why I've been pimping the idea of another set of dual-universes, similar to the two we knew, but with their own differences as well.

I'm sure the real answer to all of this something that none of us have hit upon yet, or a combination of factors that have been discussed here.

 

[Borgminister]

It was a bit too clinical and bereft of heart for an excellent, but easily very good...

 

[Procutus]

It was a bit too clinical and bereft of heart

That wouldn't have anything to do with Peter blasting the two-headed guy with the shotgun, would it?

 

[Borgminister]

Now that was freaky when two-face was dispatched out the back of the school bus, eyes a blinking...

That guy in the rhubarb pie scene at the diner counter reminded me of a Twilight Zone episode where the server had a third eye hidden beneath his cap.

 

[The Nth Doctor]

The whole episode had a wonderful Twilight Zone eerie feel to it and even a bit of classic X-Files, too.

 

[auntiehill]

^ I thought so, too. It had a definite Twilight Zone vibe to it, which I liked.

 

[Captain Shaw]

I wish we could have more episodes like this.

 

[Procutus]

^

Ditto that. While it wasn't the very best Fringe I've seen, it was pretty darn good, and managed to feel like the show did when it first began. Hopefully, there's still some life left in it after all. I'm actually psyched for next Friday.

 

[bigdaddy]

I have only watched 2-3 episodes this season figuring it's going to get canceled anyways. However I'll have to check this episode out, I live 10 miles from Westfield. I also need to see if the writers got the mile from Boston correct because last time they didn't. They had Western Mass look like Kanas.

 

[Procutus]

They had Western Mass look like Kanas.

And the showrunners of Smallville always had Kansas looking like Western Canada.