I didn't even know that was a thing. And my wife and I just turned Netflix off for a while. Shame.
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I didn't even know that was a thing. And my wife and I just turned Netflix off for a while. Shame.
Mechad Brooks is familiar, as well, though not as famous as McHale. He was Jimmy Olsen on Supergirl, and he was the "magic cyborg" character (I'm not feeling like looking up the name) in Mortal Kombat.
Yeah, I looked everyone else to make sure but McHale is the only one I've seen before.
I forget which novel featured them....ambush predators that could blend into their surroundings like chameleons, and could also hunt at night. I think that could have been the basis for a story as good as the original Jaws.
I can imagine a small group being shipwrecked on an abandoned island.... Call it Jurassic Park II.
I can imagine a small group being shipwrecked on an abandoned island.... Call it Jurassic Park II.
It was The Lost World. And they were Carnotaurus, which have since been featured in the Jurassic World cartoons but without the camouflage ability.
Richard Gadd is from Baby Reindeer
Jurrasic Park 5 title trademarked?
Out of boredom I decided to rewatch Dominion yesterday and I enjoyed it as a fun dino-movie a lot more this time, with added nostalgia.
Got a real kick at some point near the end. Everyone's been running and there's fire everywhere and Malcolm starts unbuttoning his shirt, beginning to reveal his chest. The pilot-lady (forget her name, don't mean that in a negative way) looks at him, his open shirt and goes 'no no'. He looks down, says 'oh' and buttons up again.
Got a real kick at some point near the end. Everyone's been running and there's fire everywhere and Malcolm starts unbuttoning his shirt, beginning to reveal his chest. The pilot-lady (forget her name, don't mean that in a negative way) looks at him, his open shirt and goes 'no no'. He looks down, says 'oh' and buttons up again.
I was thinking about Cast Away, and then it occurred to me that the television series Lost could be another inspiration.
Found clips on YouTube from the beginning of Lost. Creepy. Spooky.
First look
Character and plot details....
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Jurassic World Rebirth gets an official title, reveals first look images, plot & character details
Jurassic World Rebirth details revealed! Confirmed title, plot info, and character details for the 2025 release
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Plot synopsis sounds awful - a rehash of JP III, with yet more mad libs science bulls*** à la Dominion. And it seems they've pretty much completely given up on the "dinos at large in the real world angle," which, while always deeply stupid, was at least stupid in a novel way.
Sounds pretty cool to me, I'm glad they're sticking to a post-Fallen Kingdom timeframe. Although I am a little disappointed they've narrowed down their habitat to such a limited area, I liked the idea of them being everywhere and was hoping we'd get a deeper exploration of how we would coexist with them.Character and plot details....
Jurassic World Rebirth gets an official title, reveals first look images, plot & character details
Jurassic World Rebirth details revealed! Confirmed title, plot info, and character details for the 2025 release
And how do you get the links to come up in those boxes?
The dinosaurs spreading never made any sense. Besides the fact that the world today just isn't made for them to live in so a bunch would probably die because of the enviroment, they're actually (for the most part) not hard to find or kill if an armed group is trying to get them. Maybe really small ones could hide and we know that some velociraptors are pretty smart (in a way thats pretty ridiculous, sometimes) but the US army alone could have wiped the vast majority of the escaping Dinosaurs out fairly quickly, especially since most of them couldn't actually go that far, especially unnoticed.
The Dinosaurs in the Jurassic Park/World movies are generally threatening because the humans trying to survive are unarmed or there are only one or two people with weapons against a bunch of dinos. An actual Military, or even a well armed police force (which in the US tend to be armed like they're military anyway), could wipe out pretty much any dinosaur or group of dinosaurs. There was never any realistic chance of the world literally becoming a "jurassic World", unless the writing was literally just absolute BS.
The Dinosaurs in the Jurassic Park/World movies are generally threatening because the humans trying to survive are unarmed or there are only one or two people with weapons against a bunch of dinos. An actual Military, or even a well armed police force (which in the US tend to be armed like they're military anyway), could wipe out pretty much any dinosaur or group of dinosaurs. There was never any realistic chance of the world literally becoming a "jurassic World", unless the writing was literally just absolute BS.
Of yeah, it would be absolutely unrealistic, but the idea of people suddenly coexisting with something as dangerous as dinosaurs is just such a cool idea. Where we see people suddenly having to deal with not being on the top of the food chain, and then having to adjust to potentially being another animal's prey when their just out swimming somewhere or walking through the woods.
But I guess we have kind gotten that a little bit with the Quiet Place movies now.
But I guess we have kind gotten that a little bit with the Quiet Place movies now.
We now have a title, logo, character details, and synopsis:
“Five years after the events of Jurassic World Dominion, the planet’s ecology has proven largely inhospitable to dinosaurs,” the official plot description reads. “Those remaining exist in isolated equatorial environments with climates resembling the one in which they once thrived. The three most colossal creatures within that tropical biosphere hold the key to a drug that will bring miraculous life-saving benefits to humankind.”
Scarlett Johansson stars this time around, along with Mahershala Ali, Jonathan Bailey, Rupert Friend, and others. Here’s how she fits in. “Johansson plays skilled covert operations expert Zora Bennett, contracted to lead a skilled team on a top-secret mission to secure genetic material from the world’s three most massive dinosaurs,” says the press release. “When Zora’s operation intersects with a civilian family whose boating expedition was capsized by marauding aquatic dinos, they all find themselves stranded on an island where they come face-to-face with a sinister, shocking discovery that’s been hidden from the world for decades.”
Like the article says, sounds like a mix between the second and third films. The article also has a couple of photos and brief character details.
I'm disappointed but unsurprised they're moving away from theme of humans and dinosaurs coexisting. It was the plot thread I was most interested in Dominion (along with, of course, the gratuitous and lovely reunions!) and I was frustrated when the film inevitably moved away from it. Alas.I'll still give this film a chance but I won't lie: I'm already losing interest.
I have to disagree the theme of dinosaurs in the real world is wildly unrealistic and stupid.
It's entirely a question of what dinosaurs you choose to focus on and how. Obviously, wild T. Rexes aren't going to be snacking on random commuters and disappearing into the woods. But there's a lot of potential story in the smaller, harder to eradicate dinosaurs like Compys or Dilophosaurs. Especially if you explore the tension in poorer places that can't afford every possible precaution and constant fast reaction forces for any dinosaur that shows up, meanwhile the rich communities live in dinosaur proof gated communities and build giant border walls to keep the dinos from spreading to their area. Then add in the tensions around dinosaur rights - the big, easy to like ones that don't actually hunt people could easily have become protected species in some places, but that wouldn't stop them from coming into conflict with locals, especially poor locals who have to compete with them for food, anyway.
Then there's the constant stream of completely unpredictable random outbreaks from the black market trade because there will always be people getting their hands on dinosaurs illegally (as eggs, or - even harder to track - genetic material) who aren't at all equipped to keep them under control long-term, whether it's illegal roadside zoos, illegal research labs or just rich morons who want a T-Rex for a pet. You can stop each individual outbreak in a matter of hours if you're willing to put enough resources into it, but you're never going to put the genie back in the bottle enough to stop the outbreaks from happening at all.
Then there's the ones that wouldn't seek out civilization enough to cause major trouble, but would still be seriously dangerous for anyone unlucky enough to find them (Raptors probably make a lot of sense here, though the recent movies were being weird trying to put them in the Rocky Mountains instead of in a jungle region). Those kind could even be beyond any kind of govt. intervention if the local govts. found it more convenient to deny they exist than actually try to do something about them.
And, of course, there's the ocean-going (not technically) dinosaurs. Mosasarus would likely be terrorizing fishing and sailing communities for a long time before anyone managed to understand it's behavior patterns well enough to predict where it would go next and be ready to capture or kill it. The ocean is way too vast to succesfully and easily track it unless you get super-lucky.
And after all that, there's still the genetic engineering angle, as well. Any species that included the I-Rex style camouflage genes would be completely untraceable.
A movie that genuinely wants to explore the idea of humanity actually having to coexist with dinosaurs could be absolutely fantastic if well-made, as well as way more realistic and believable than any of the JW movies we actually got. And it's really the only place the Jurassic franchise has left to go that isn't just warmed over pastiches of all the franchise entries that already exist.
It's really a shame they keep tossing all that potential out the window for endless generic mad science bs.
It's entirely a question of what dinosaurs you choose to focus on and how. Obviously, wild T. Rexes aren't going to be snacking on random commuters and disappearing into the woods. But there's a lot of potential story in the smaller, harder to eradicate dinosaurs like Compys or Dilophosaurs. Especially if you explore the tension in poorer places that can't afford every possible precaution and constant fast reaction forces for any dinosaur that shows up, meanwhile the rich communities live in dinosaur proof gated communities and build giant border walls to keep the dinos from spreading to their area. Then add in the tensions around dinosaur rights - the big, easy to like ones that don't actually hunt people could easily have become protected species in some places, but that wouldn't stop them from coming into conflict with locals, especially poor locals who have to compete with them for food, anyway.
Then there's the constant stream of completely unpredictable random outbreaks from the black market trade because there will always be people getting their hands on dinosaurs illegally (as eggs, or - even harder to track - genetic material) who aren't at all equipped to keep them under control long-term, whether it's illegal roadside zoos, illegal research labs or just rich morons who want a T-Rex for a pet. You can stop each individual outbreak in a matter of hours if you're willing to put enough resources into it, but you're never going to put the genie back in the bottle enough to stop the outbreaks from happening at all.
Then there's the ones that wouldn't seek out civilization enough to cause major trouble, but would still be seriously dangerous for anyone unlucky enough to find them (Raptors probably make a lot of sense here, though the recent movies were being weird trying to put them in the Rocky Mountains instead of in a jungle region). Those kind could even be beyond any kind of govt. intervention if the local govts. found it more convenient to deny they exist than actually try to do something about them.
And, of course, there's the ocean-going (not technically) dinosaurs. Mosasarus would likely be terrorizing fishing and sailing communities for a long time before anyone managed to understand it's behavior patterns well enough to predict where it would go next and be ready to capture or kill it. The ocean is way too vast to succesfully and easily track it unless you get super-lucky.
And after all that, there's still the genetic engineering angle, as well. Any species that included the I-Rex style camouflage genes would be completely untraceable.
A movie that genuinely wants to explore the idea of humanity actually having to coexist with dinosaurs could be absolutely fantastic if well-made, as well as way more realistic and believable than any of the JW movies we actually got. And it's really the only place the Jurassic franchise has left to go that isn't just warmed over pastiches of all the franchise entries that already exist.
It's really a shame they keep tossing all that potential out the window for endless generic mad science bs.
The biggest problem is, and the novel tried to get into that....
Are they really dinosaurs? The environment today is completely different than 65-200 million years ago. So a direct clone of a dinosaur from back than would have troubles with our atmosphere. You'd need genetic engineering to accomplish what millennia or more of evolution would do. At that point, would they still be dinosaurs?
And THAT's the core of the original novel. Henry Wu in that book, at some points tries to convince Hammond to kill every animal on the island and create new versions (they actually have version numbers in the novel, like 4.1 and 3.6) that resemble what people think dinosaurs are; sluggish slow and stupid reptiles. Instead of the fast, agile and smart creatures they turned out to be.
Grant actually touches on this a little in Jurassic Park III, during his lecture. That the dinosaurs created by Hammond aren't real dinosaurs.
Crichton was a bit of a luddite, not that he had a deep distrust of technology but assumed that any form of it would be abused at some point, and some of his novels touch on the negative impacts of technology on human life. Jurassic Park is no example. Amazing tech that could do so much for the quality of human life is used to make a perversion of previous life on this planet to entertain the rich.
That is certainly true, but it's basically the main concept of the whole series. We've always accepted their survival on the island(s), so it would be rather ridiculous to object to the realism of a sequel on the grounds that dinosaurs shouldn't be able to survive modern atmosphere. (There being a temperature issue for some dinosaurs is more reasonable, but there's also no reason they ever had to try to put them in cold areas instead of setting the movie in Central America, Texas/the southeastern US, etc.)
And while I personally prefer it when JP is talking about man's relationship to nature rather than postulating about how the dinosaurs are actually monstrously unnatural genetic freaks, even if you go down the genetic freak path it really doesn't remove any of those story possibilities. It actually makes it even easier, as I mentioned with the whole availability of invisible dinosaurs that could even more plausibly wreak havoc. And probably various other weird genetic advantages you could give them. Though, again, I'd prefer it not go down that path, myself.
This is exactly the kind of stuff I was hoping for.
And the series has never been particularly accurate when it comes to the presentation of the dinosaurs, or at least hasn't kept up with newer discoveries since the first one, so I don't really see where this would be taking things that much farther out of the realm of plausibility that than the series already is.
I'm just interested in what would give us the most interesting potential stories, not what's the most realisitic.
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