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Fourth of July.

Congrats and all! To those who celebrate it. But let me under this so - the 4th celebrates the eastern states gaining freedom from the king of england and his forces. Oddly enough we in the UK arn't taught much about this period. All I seem to remember is on this date...with the help of the French..the eastern states (aka the 13 colonies...secured freedom from the British empire).

The remaining states mostly in the west were still a part of the Spanish empire? Attending a british education system we didnt seem to learn when and how the western states secured they're identity but rather learned about the east-side.
 
Actually, this day just celebrates the Declaration of Independence which became official on July 4th, 1776. The war with the British for independence followed afterwards. At this point, there were only the 13 colonies, the other states didn't exist, yet.
 
Actually, this day just celebrates the Declaration of Independence which became official on July 4th, 1776. The war with the British for independence followed afterwards. At this point, there were only the 13 colonies, the other states didn't exist, yet.

Correct. We declared independence, then fought the Revolutionary War.

The US Constitution was not ratified until 1778, and the government was seated in 1789. That's when George Washington's first term as President began.
 
Okay so who was milling about in the western site of America? Thanks for filling me in about the purchase. I remember learning a little bit about Independence but not how the Spanish side/western areas developed.
 
What are everyone's plans?
I'll be at work from 10 to 6. God forbid the pharmacy actually be closed!

I've always thought pharmacies are one of the few things that should never close. People still get sick on the holidays, you know.

That said, I'll be at work from 6pm-4am tending a mostly empty bar...because nobody actually goes to bars on the 4th of July. It's a drink at home/on the beach/in a boat kind of day.
 
BBQ, Beer, Fireworks, and Family; each a greater potential recipe for disaster, in that order. ;)

We're heading over to my grandma's house and having a party with the extended family, so we go all out with steak, chicken, burgers, and hot dogs. Then usually badminton, volleyball, and water balloon toss (into pillow cases) for everyone to work off the food they just ate. Then fireworks after that and s'mores by the backyard firepit.

I hope everyone has a fun and safe holiday, and thanks to all the well-wishers. :)

I might crash your party because that sounds awesome.
 
Okay so who was milling about in the western site of America? Thanks for filling me in about the purchase. I remember learning a little bit about Independence but not how the Spanish side/western areas developed.

I did this in History a couple of years ago, and it was only the mid to late 19th- but from what I remember, the Spanish were mostly in the South- Mexico and Texas. The native 'Indians' were in the west. Migration first began across the plains in the middle of the continent in the 1840s and 50s to California and Oregon because of better, warm, more farmable land with less extreme weather than the plains, that the Indians kept at first. Obviously though, the entire US was all colonized eventually. But all this is after Independence, so I'd assume it was the natives for most of the continent and Spanish in the South and maybe South West.

As for the State's identities, they were established as they were colonized. Hope this helps. :)
 
Actually, this day just celebrates the Declaration of Independence which became official on July 4th, 1776. The war with the British for independence followed afterwards. At this point, there were only the 13 colonies, the other states didn't exist, yet.
Correct. We declared independence, then fought the Revolutionary War.

The US Constitution was not ratified until 1778, and the government was seated in 1789. That's when George Washington's first term as President began.
Technically we'd started fighting the war before we declared independence. The shooting war began on April 19, 1775, at Lexington and Concord. But at that time, it was still just a few colonies against Great Britain. After July 4, 1776, it was thirteen United States.
 
Actually, this day just celebrates the Declaration of Independence which became official on July 4th, 1776. The war with the British for independence followed afterwards. At this point, there were only the 13 colonies, the other states didn't exist, yet.

That's right. Back then what became known as TN was part of NC. Remember that TN; we've got our eyes on you.:cardie:
 
Actually, this day just celebrates the Declaration of Independence which became official on July 4th, 1776. The war with the British for independence followed afterwards. At this point, there were only the 13 colonies, the other states didn't exist, yet.

Correct. We declared independence, then fought the Revolutionary War.

The US Constitution was not ratified until 1778, and the government was seated in 1789. That's when George Washington's first term as President began.

Not for nothing, but I think you're confusing the Articles of Confederation with the Constitution. The Constitution wasn't created until 1787 and not ratified until 1788.
 
For the most part we get along...but every so often we bicker. Here in the Southeast, Georgia, Florida, and TN had what amounts to a water rights spat a few years ago during the uber-drought. Recently, the NC/SC line was resurveyed around Charlotte and some folks in SC found out that they really lived in NC, and since local and state taxes for them will be higher once they are grafted in, you can imagine how well that's been received. Also, SC's folks don't seem to happy with their Republican governor. I constantly here them all talk about how she's a better friend to Georgia than SC - something about some work they're doing around the SC line down around Savannah, which is on their border that seems to have pissed off residents of Charleston.
 
Soooooooooooooooooo the 4th has only got to do with a few states - not the rest.
 
It has to do with America and when it declared Independence. Just because the country has grown since then doesn't mean the newer states can't celebrate.
 
Actually, this day just celebrates the Declaration of Independence which became official on July 4th, 1776. The war with the British for independence followed afterwards. At this point, there were only the 13 colonies, the other states didn't exist, yet.

Correct. We declared independence, then fought the Revolutionary War.

The US Constitution was not ratified until 1778, and the government was seated in 1789. That's when George Washington's first term as President began.

Not for nothing, but I think you're confusing the Articles of Confederation with the Constitution. The Constitution wasn't created until 1787 and not ratified until 1788.

It was a typo. I meant 1788.

:)
 
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