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Pie man was also my first thought when the prostitute was trying to touch him.

Well, second, first was that they were using Dunes shields.
Prostitute is hardly the word.

Courtesan?

Trained from Birth to "comfort" the Emperor for 24 hours.

The question is, what becomes of the girl, after their 24 hours of delight?

Retired to a horticultural world?

Does he ask for a courtesan for a 24 hours when he's feeling frisky, or is there always one on hand even if he's not on the planet? He's gone for a month, and 31 courtesans are used up waiting for him.

What a waste.

20 years, getting ready for her moment, only to be thrown away with the litter having missed that moment?

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Or is the Emperor such a jerk he doesn't realize its the same 8 women over and over again... Like in Hogans Heroes. Seriously, its the same 8 women as resistance, Brits and Germans.
 
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Prostitute is hardly the word.

Courtesan?

Trained from Birth to "comfort" the Emperor for 24 hours.

The question is, what becomes of the girl, after their 24 hours of delight?

Retired to a horticultural world?

Does he ask for a courtesan for a 24 hours when he's feeling frisky, or is there always one on hand even if he's not on the planet? He's gone for a month, and 31 courtesans are used up waiting for him.

What a waste.

20 years, getting ready for her moment, only to be thrown away with the litter having missed that moment?

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Or is the Emperor such a jerk he doesn't realize its the same 8 women over and over again... Like in Hogans Heroes. Seriously, its the same 8 women as resistance, Brits and Germans.

Did they say all that? I must have missed it.
 
She said "24 hours".

Everything else is assumption based on Prince Andrew.

I did hear her say they only had 24 hours together, I didn't hear anything about being trained for birth for the job, which is why I thought she was just a high class prostitute.

Regarding Andrew, Down With The Monarchy.
 
I did hear her say they only had 24 hours together, I didn't hear anything about being trained for birth for the job, which is why I thought she was just a high class prostitute.

Regarding Andrew, Down With The Monarchy.

Stds.
Assassination.
Fertility.
Love.

The Emperor should stay clean. STDs can cause dementia as well as amputation.

The Emperor should not be murdered by a street prostitute, or assassinated by some clever thing able to date the Emperor.

The Emperor should not have legitimate heirs that might disrupt the genetic dynasty.

No Empress. No Yoko, abdication and again, no kids.

You take a cow (a slave bred for a specific job), cut out her reproductive organs, she is loyal and clean, and if she's only there for 24 hours, no one is falling in love, and she's probably good at frakking the emperor because she has been practicing on a clone of the emperor since puberty.

This is why the girl in the Garden is a problem.

Love and babies.
 
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That's another difference with the book. In the book, the Foundation had invented the personal shield. I am starting to wonder if the writers of the series even read the trilogy or only CliffsNotes? Or maybe just word of mouth...
 
The thing that bothers me is that they keep including these new facts that are never explained like who destroyed the tether and why and why did Raych kill Seldon?
That's not something Asimov would do, IE introducing important facts like these and then no explanation. How many of these should we expect before the end of the series?

Either it will be explained later ( most likely why Raych killed Seldon) but the Tether doesn't need explanation - it is a visible and irrefutable sign that the Empire ist starting to collapse by losing control and influence in the outer regions ( and it made for a very nice visual spectacle).

The show is still new and things are only starting to move so give it some time.
 
In this series, it looks like the outer worlds lose technology rather than the Foundation invent new technology as in the books (which might derail Seldon's plan anyway in my opinion). Personal shield tech, like the fast version of FTL, might only be available to the richest and most privileged. In this version, it appears to be ceated by a biotech implant (like the bombs) rather than a miniature nuclear reactor but this isn't certain.
 
Prostitute is hardly the word.

Courtesan?

cour·te·san
/ˈkôrdəzən,ˈkôrdəzan/

noun
LITERARY
  1. a prostitute, especially one with wealthy or upper-class clients.
    "they diverted their remaining funds into frequenting courtesans"

KInda the word.........
 
cour·te·san
/ˈkôrdəzən,ˈkôrdəzan/

noun
LITERARY
  1. a prostitute, especially one with wealthy or upper-class clients.
    "they diverted their remaining funds into frequenting courtesans"

KInda the word.........

This 24 hour prozzie?

How is she paid?

Is she paid?

If she's not paid then she's not a prostitute.

Food and lodging?

My understanding of a 15th century courtesan is that it's a woman who hangs out at court and very rarely says no when an important person demands sex, and in exchange, she has a room, clothing and food. She can live a good life, when she really hasn't earned it, or been born into it. On Homeland a topless Melissa "Supergirl" Benoist was offered the same gig, for an Arab sheik's harem. Seriously it's a shirtless job interview. It's quite disturbing in retrospect.

I just started season 2 of Discovery (again) and Stamets is talking about an alien opera singer that is trained from birth to sing one opera, and then kills herself the moment it's over.

We could be dealing with something like that?

A human being thrown into a furnace rather than tell all how small the emperor's willy is?

A low grade clone that's grown in a week, has sex for a day, and then falls apart dead from old age a week later.

They could be using telepaths to wipe her brain clean every 24 hours. So she thinks that she's just arrived and that she is imminently leaving, but in reality, she is always there. Although, no one is supposed to know about telepaths, so that's hardly likely.
 
I'd just go with whatever seems likely to you if it's not shown or described onscreen. Personally, I suspect she was pensioned off if she performed well and pleased him; disintegrated if she didn't. When the human race numbers in the many trillions and its ruler is effectively an immortal God Emperor, albeit a cloned one, it would probably not be unexpected for Him to not care one jot about the fate of an individual.
 
I'd just go with whatever seems likely to you if it's not shown or described onscreen. Personally, I suspect she was pensioned off if she performed well and pleased him; disintegrated if she didn't. When the human race numbers in the many trillions and its ruler is effectively an immortal God Emperor, albeit a cloned one, it would probably not be unexpected for Him to not care one jot about the fate of an individual.

What happens if one, or more of the emperors are assassinated?

Are there understudies?

Replacements studying the "original" in detail 24/7, to maintain a continuity of rule and effectation, if the worst happens, waiting for their moment?
 
:shrug:They're really like identical twins, albeit at different ages. Even with identical twins there are developmental and mutational differences. In show, there are at most four Cleons alive at one moment and the oldest has to go carousel. They have personal shields and seem to be closely monitored (except when they aren't for some reason) so assassination doesn't appear to be considered as a possibility. Brother Day going off world against protocol appears to me to be an obvious set up for a successional crisis such as the one you suggest.
 
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Likewise, the new Brother Dawn definitely seems off. He isn't in sync with the other two, and it's not just youth; we saw the current Day moved and spoke in parallel with his older brothers when he was much younger. He seems to have some kind of chronic medical issue that the staff is aware of, even if they aren't supposed to be (the gardener suggesting a specific plant as a painkiller, without having any indication we saw that Dawn was in physical pain). It's likely that that's what gave Brother Darkness pause on the way to his disintegration, and not just pre-euthanasia jitters; he'd done the ascension ceremony twice before (that he could remember, plus once as a baby), so he'd know exactly how the baby should be behaving, and apparently colic is not a normal Cleon trait.
 
I wonder if they'll keep anything from the book, like for instance Seldon appearing in the time-vault after each crisis to explain it to the people of Terminus. The emperor (empire) seems to think a lot about Seldon after his death which is a clear departure from the book since the whole idea is that Terminus was supposed to be gradually forgotten by the empire only to be confronted by it much later by the general (Bel Riose if memory serves). To an emperor of millions of worlds, the Foundation is almost nothing, less than a random small village to the president of the US for example.
 
I wonder if they'll keep anything from the book, like for instance Seldon appearing in the time-vault after each crisis to explain it to the people of Terminus. The emperor (empire) seems to think a lot about Seldon after his death which is a clear departure from the book since the whole idea is that Terminus was supposed to be gradually forgotten by the empire only to be confronted by it much later by the general (Bel Riose if memory serves). To an emperor of millions of worlds, the Foundation is almost nothing, less than a random small village to the president of the US for example.

On the other hand the currently emperor was around back then to know Seldon I wouldn't be surprised if the next one doesn't really care about The Foundation that much given his current lack of interest in them.
 
On the other hand the currently emperor was around back then to know Seldon I wouldn't be surprised if the next one doesn't really care about The Foundation that much given his current lack of interest in them.

True but the Foundation problem was just one thing in the very busy life of a galactic emperor.A thing that had been solved to the emperor's satisfaction by exiling the Foundation to the remotest planet of the galaxy. Why should he give it any thought at all? Surely, there are more pressing matters to think about especially since the empire was showing signs of increasing instability.
 
True but the Foundation problem was just one thing in the very busy life of a galactic emperor.A thing that had been solved to the emperor's satisfaction by exiling the Foundation to the remotest planet of the galaxy. Why should he give it any thought at all? Surely, there are more pressing matters to think about especially since the empire was showing signs of increasing instability.

Because he seems to be of the opinion that his predecessor fucked everything up and he has to fix it.

I expect he will back off on the matter of The Foundation when he finds out the break away kingdoms are positioned to solve that problem for him.
 
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