News Foundation Adaptation Series Officially Ordered by Apple

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  1. oldtrekkie

    oldtrekkie Captain Red Shirt

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    It would not be a library of paper books though... but of something sophisticated and futuristic.
     
  2. Roko's Basilisk

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  3. oldtrekkie

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    It might have been acceptable back in Asimov's days but now we know better.;)



    I'd say information stored at the molecular level, at least.
     
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    We'll all be wired into the galactic internet by implanted tech, is my expectation. Direct interface with the brain's sensorium would mean we'd rarely have to travel physically anywhere. Then it's a short step to being a near immortal brain in a jar. Not really very exciting for character-driven fiction though.
     
  5. Christopher

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    Yeah... one more case of a thing Star Wars copied being accused of copying Star Wars. See also John Carter.
     
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    Wasn't the imperial gardens (mentioned in Foundation and Empire iirc and had the gardener who didn't want to be take away from it) the exception?

    or maybe that it was just the biggest open space on the planet.
     
  7. FPAlpha

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    Star Trek's Picard had a neat idea exactly like this with the quantum storage facility he visits, very cool logical continuation of the energy=mass and vice versa principle that drives replicators.
     
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    Trantors existence in the books fluctuates in ways that don't make sense anyway. From an all city planet mostly underground that's all metal on the surface to a farming planet in a couple hundred years.
     
  9. Christopher

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    Replicators don't convert energy to mass. If they did, then per E=mc^2, it would take twice the United States' entire annual energy consumption to replicate one sandwich. They merely rearrange molecules from a raw matter stock to fit a stored pattern. They're basically transporter-based 3D printers.
     
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    I don't know where your information comes from but i can't remember official sources stating it is a converter.

    Wiki Link ( yeah i know, but it's too late the issue not important enough to make indepth research):

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Replicator_(Star_Trek)
     
  11. wayoung

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    ?

    It says it in your own link
    "In-story information
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    Synthesis of organic and inorganic materials via rearrangement of subatomic particles"
     
  12. Christopher

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    The TNG Technical Manual, mainly, and the DS9 one and behind-the-scenes materials. Rick Sternbach and Mike Okuda retconned out TOS's "matter-to-energy" model of transporters -- because of the utterly ridiculous amount of energy it would require -- in favor of a more plausible one based simply on rearranging molecules, and of course replicators are based on the same principle as transporters. Unfortunately, the "matter-to-energy" myth has persisted for decades despite that.
     
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    Yeah well, the article itself provides a different explanation but then again, that's Wiki. I give up, you and Christopher win this non-issue discussion, back to the Foundation discussion ;)
     
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    I'm actually watching this week's Lower Decks and it's said onscreen twice, once at the start and once at the end :biggrin:
     
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    Yes, the gardens were an exception and the gardener went nuts when the Emperor promoted him, he tried to kill him. The only thing he wanted in life was to be a gardener plain and simple.
     
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    As often with things in Star Trek, we don't really know what replicators are or how they work. The information we get is insufficient and contradictory.
     
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    Quoting David S Goyer from that article:
    So robots confirmed? They weren't in the original trilogy but I don't mind their inclusion. The time jumps could be framed by an End of Eternity structure revealed a few seasons (or even episodes?) in. As for Galaxia, though, hmm... Would that seem too cheesy to audiences?
     
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    Well, it could be just a figure of speech? Or perhaps in this universe robots are just a commodity.
     
  20. oldtrekkie

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    According to "Prelude To Foundation" the robots were there all along. Even Seldon's wife was a robot.