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News Foundation Adaptation Series Officially Ordered by Apple

Yeah... it looks like they are just taking the kernel of the idea of the premise of the Foundation series (Historian uses science to predict the impending end of a long standing Empire) and building something new around it.

yeah I think you're pretty much on the money there.
 
Building a new story around the kernel of an idea can produce a very good story -- e.g. Who Framed Roger Rabbit? or the How to Train Your Dragon movies, which bear extremely little resemblance to their source material (a vast improvement in WFRR's case, though I haven't read the books the latter is based on and can't judge). Or the Marvel Cinematic Universe, which picks out bits and pieces from hundreds of different comics over decades and assembles them into new stories.

Of course, there's no guarantee a reinvention will be good, but there's no guarantee a faithful adaptation would be good either. It's all in the execution.
 
I would point out that Heinlein's "Door Into Summer" also featured this sort of thing so it's not like it's unprecedented, even among Golden Age greats.
 
So it's another I, Robot.

Which I actually enjoyed so... okay?

Yup. I never got the complaints about I, Robot, since the book of that title is not a novel, it's a story collection. The movie was just an additional Susan Calvin/robot story under the same blanket title. I see it more as a loose prequel to the stories in the book than an adaptation. Certainly it reinterprets Calvin and her world to fit the action-blockbuster idiom, but as action blockbusters go, it's not bad. (And having a performance-captured robot character played by Alan Tudyk generally isn't a bad thing in a movie...)
 
Damn, I really wish this was on one of the streaming services I subscribe to, it looks awesome.
 
Well, Philip K Dick's book was loosely adapted into the excellent Blade Runner and the even better 2049, so we shall see. I'm a big Foundation fan but I'll keep an open mind until I see it. I loved Bicentennial Man.
 
Damn, I really wish this was on one of the streaming services I subscribe to, it looks awesome.

Apple is extremely cheap to subscribe to. You even get a free year when you buy a big ticket Apple product. Wait until the entire first season is out, subscribe for one month for only $4.99 (which comes with a seven day trial, so in theory you could watch Foundation for free.... but then you'd probably want to watch For All Mankind, Ted Lasso and Mythic Quest too).
 
I am excited for this and dreading it at the same time. The books were fantastic, so hopefully the series does justice to them. It was obvious they were going to add space battles and action to attract mainstream viewers that expect that kind of stuff from scifi movies/series.

Interesting that Salvor,Gaal and Demerzel are now females. The latter is probably not Daneel in this series as I expect they will not deal with the Robot story line.
 
By the way, in the modern Foundation books they tried to justify in some ways why the medical science wasn't very advanced (even by today standard). It wasn't very convincing, but at least they tried to connect it to the main theme of "scientific knowledge that was slowly being lost".
If anyone is remotely interested in the explanation given, here it is (I try to remember it as best I can).

Before the Foundation and during the Empire, medical-scientific research was practically non-existent (like almost all types of research). Doctors are practically "only" specialized technicians capable of using machinery to treat this or that disease. But fewer and fewer people are interested in a medical career, as being technicians in other activities is much more remunerative.

All this is explained by the doctor who diagnoses the degenerative disease that will bring Hari Seldom in the wheelchair. She also tells him that a few decades earlier his illness would have been curable, but there is simply no one left who knows how to do it (I know it doesn't make much sense, but it's better than nothing).

During the Foundation, however, all scientific research on longevity, cloning, etc. is actively blocked by the Second Foundation, since the average human lifespan is one of the axioms of Psychohistory and if there were drastic advances in these fields, Hari Seldom's predictions about the future of humanity could not come true.
 
The guy was in a room full of artificial wombs with fetuses of various levels of development and he called them "myself being born." Obviously they're clones. Regeneration would be making the guy himself young again. This is an old man looking at newly formed copies of himself, which presumably will succeed him in the "genetic dynasty" once he dies.

I thought of David Brin's unpublished ending to Foundation's Triumph in which a clone of Hari Seldon wakes up at some point in the future, probably post-Foundation and Earth. I'd read a Foundation novel that followed on from that. :)
 
Judging by the trailer alone, but has much more action than i remember from the books at that early stage of the show, we may get to see the rise and development of Psychohistory and Hari Seldon and maybe in the finale we'll see that massive timejump and the actual Foundation colony, setting up season 2.

As dated as some elements of Asimov's original are ( nuclear weapons and items being the pinnacle of technological development) i have no problem if they update that. I'm not a fanatical Asimov fan, as long as they keep the spirit and core of the story and just change the window dressing i am fine with it.

I'll be definitely tuning in this fall.
 
As dated as some elements of Asimov's original are ( nuclear weapons and items being the pinnacle of technological development) i have no problem if they update that. I'm not a fanatical Asimov fan, as long as they keep the spirit and core of the story and just change the window dressing i am fine with it.

But... but... what about Anacreon's coal-powered starships? :)

To be clear, I'm just kidding. I don't know how anyone even in the 1940s took that seriously.
 
Apple is extremely cheap to subscribe to. You even get a free year when you buy a big ticket Apple product. Wait until the entire first season is out, subscribe for one month for only $4.99 (which comes with a seven day trial, so in theory you could watch Foundation for free.... but then you'd probably want to watch For All Mankind, Ted Lasso and Mythic Quest too).
Yeah, I am finding myself tempted to do what I've been doing with HBOMax and Netflix and switch back and forth between Paramount+ and Apple TV. I keep seeing more and more stuff I want to watch on Apple, not only do they have the three you listed and Foundation, but they also have the new Peanuts stuff, Schmigadoon, and See.
 
This morning I decided to cancel my Paramount+ and signed up for Apple TV+ instead. Started See and For All Mankind, and really enjoyed it.
Definitely going to be checking out Foundation when it comes out. Do they do full season dumps or one a week?
 
For For All Mankind and The Morning Show, it's once a week. Don't know about the rest but I assume it's the same. Pretty much only Netflix and Amazon do full dumps anymore (and not all the time for Amazon).
 
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