Former President George Bush Wants Son "JEB" Bush To Run For President

[Dayton3]

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Having just 2% going for your guy is waaaaaaaaaay outside the margin of error.

And Lincoln raped McCellan in 1864 212 to 21. But I guess you knew that.

Barely 10% in popular vote though. Especially close considering Lincoln was a war time president and he allowed tens of thousands of Union soldiers to return home and vote (almost certainly for Lincoln) and forced govt. employees to chip in a percentage of their salaries for campaign expenses.

In fact, a general consensus exists that had Sherman not successfully destroyed Atlanta and begin his "March to the Sea", Lincoln might well have lost his bid for reelection.

 

[Dayton3]

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Despite what some think And these figures were gathered before the debacles over Hurricane Katrina, Bush's role in the Valerie Plame leak affair and the deterioration of the situation in Iraq. Were the historians polled today, that figure would certainly be higher.

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Your information is badly dated.

The Hurricane Katrina problems are coming to be seen more and more as mainly a failure at the state and local levels.

President Bush has been basically cleared on doing anything wrong in the much over blown Valerie Plame leak.

And Iraq is well on its way to being seen as a successful foreign policy venture by the Bush Admin.

 

[Locutus of Bored]

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Your information is badly dated.

Yes, polls conducted in 2008 (the one with the pretty graphs which are obviously still too difficult for you), 2007, 2006, and 2004 - WHEN DINOSAURS ROAMED THE EARTH!

I can see why you believe all this crap with that amazing reading comprehension of yours.

 

[Dayton3]

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Your information is badly dated.

Yes, polls conducted in 2008 (the one with the pretty graphs which are obviously still too difficult for you), 2007, 2006, and 2004 - WHEN DINOSAURS ROAMED THE EARTH!

I can see why you believe all this crap with that amazing reading comprehension of yours.

Your post said "BEFORE HURRICANE KATRINA".

So one can assume they were all conducted prior to the third quarter of 2005.

Please explain that.

 

[Squiggy]

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Having just 2% going for your guy is waaaaaaaaaay outside the margin of error.

And Lincoln raped McCellan in 1864 212 to 21. But I guess you knew that.

Barely 10% in popular vote though.

Which is landside today and has never mattered. Funny how you used this metric:

And Bush received more popular votes both in absolute numbers and percentage terms than Bill Clinton did in either of his elections.

before but Lincoln "barely" got 10%. Double standard much?

What about him being "barely elected" in 1860, where he had 110 more electoral votes and 22% more of the popular vote than the next guy. But no...let's go back to your "won more of the popular vote than Clinton". You know who won even more than Bush?

President-Elect Barack Obama. Proof positive that he is even a better leader than Bush.

 

[Locutus of Bored]

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Your information is badly dated.

Yes, polls conducted in 2008 (the one with the pretty graphs which are obviously still too difficult for you), 2007, 2006, and 2004 - WHEN DINOSAURS ROAMED THE EARTH!

I can see why you believe all this crap with that amazing reading comprehension of yours.

Your post said "BEFORE HURRICANE KATRINA".

So one can assume they were all conducted prior to the third quarter of 2005.

Please explain that.

Even after explaining to you that there are multiple polls from different years in the post, you still didn't take the time to go back and read it before commenting on the same thing again? Try reading the entire thing instead of just picking and choosing one section to try and find some lame excuse to dismiss it all. Here's a hint, every time there's a link, that's the end of the information from one source, and then it moves on to a different poll or source. Understand?

For Christ's sake, I even put 2008 as the first word in the post because I know how easily confused you can be. And every subsequent excerpt or link also lists the year the poll was conducted.

Would you understand it better if I put it in brightly colored magnetic letters on a refrigerator?

 

[Roger Wilco]

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Your information is badly dated.

Yes, polls conducted in 2008 (the one with the pretty graphs which are obviously still too difficult for you), 2007, 2006, and 2004 - WHEN DINOSAURS ROAMED THE EARTH!

I can see why you believe all this crap with that amazing reading comprehension of yours.

The only poll in regards to Bush that counts from dayton's perspective is the one taken on september 12th 2001 or so.

 

[Garak]

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Won two wars.

Iraq is starting to look promising but Afghanistan is a shit show Dayton, that's very dishonest of you.

Afghanistan is better now than it has been anytime since the 1970s.

Irrelevant.

That has nothing to do with winning 2 wars, as you previously stated.

And it's only marginally better than it was in the '70s - terrorist groups still run amok, unemployment was at 40% in 2006 and ask Karzai when the last time he saw the light of day in his own country or had influence outside of Kabul.

We were told the purpose of the war was to capture OBL, destroy Al Qaeda and remove the Taliban from power. OBL is still at large, Al Qaeda still exists both in Afghanistan and outside it, and the Taliban is flexing plenty of muscle in towns outside Kabul.

Sorry mate, you can't be objective and say you won this war. It's not even over yet. I find your dishonesty startling.

 

[Davros]

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It will take generations before anybody is stupid enough to vote any Bush family members back into the Oval Office.

 

[Locutus of Bored]

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Your information is badly dated.

Yes, polls conducted in 2008 (the one with the pretty graphs which are obviously still too difficult for you), 2007, 2006, and 2004 - WHEN DINOSAURS ROAMED THE EARTH!

I can see why you believe all this crap with that amazing reading comprehension of yours.

The only poll in regards to Bush that counts from dayton's perspective is the one taken on september 12th 2001 or so.

Dayton's like the American version of the Iraqi Information Minister saying "There are no American infidels in Baghdad. Never!" as US tanks were rolling up outside the building.

If ignorance is truly bliss, he's got to be the happiest man on Earth.

 

[bigdaddy]

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Yes I'm late to the party, but these are too funny...

No one has presented any evidence whatsoever as to why the American people would not elect Jeb Bush president.

Heck, had George W. Bush been eligible to run again he probably would've gotten 45% against Barack Obama at least.

How do you figure that? Over 10% of the electorate would vote for a man they poll as disapproving of?

That actually would be right.

Yes people would vote for Bush again.

Bush's approval rating is 25%, I don't understand how it's that high, but whatever, Obama would NEVER get 75% of the vote, never! The choice is between two people, the rednecks who don't like Bush will still vote for him because it's better than that niggar Muslim terrorist communist God-less Barrack Hussein (They would say that part louder) Obama destroying our Christian based God loving USA!

In other words they would vote for Bush because they live in a dreamland.

Despite what some think now, no one who wants to be taken seriously can claim that President Bush has been one of most "disastrous presidents in American history".

No domestic terrorist attacks after 9-11.

The economy just fine for more than 7 of his eight years.

Good relations between the U.S. and virtually every major nation on Earth.

Won two wars.

1. Maybe he should have stopped the worst terror attack in the history of the USA. And NH State Motto is "Live free or die", so destroying the Constitution to try to stop attacks is questionable.

2. Really? So just magically happened that a second great depression started on his watch in one month? Bad luck Bush!

3. Wow.... just wow.... does anyone on the planet, besides Israel like us? I think even England started to hate us before we election Obama.

4. So we don't still have 170,000 troops in Afghanistan and Iraq? We won there right? So I guess they all went home? Oh yeah.. . right we are sending in 20,000-30,000 more troops to Afghanistan. It's not the best since anytime, it is the worst since we invaded! Sending in troops, that's a win to Republicans! They love seeing people die, unless it's 4 cells in a test tube, then no can't kill those! Those are lives we are talking about!!!!

 

[Dayton3]

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Just because a war has been won doesn't mean the shooting stops, everyone goes home, and all is right with the world.

The U.S. lost TWICE as many soldiers in the Philippines fighting insurgents there after the Spanish-American War was OVER.

The U.S. lost thousands of soldiers fighting in the Russian Civil War (an extension of events in WWI) after World War I was OVER.

The U.S. lost thousands of soldiers throughout the Pacific Theatre after Japan surrendered in World War II.

After the war was OVER.

 

[Trekker4747]

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I wouldn't say either of our "wars" have been won or lost, both are still very much in progress.

 

[Australis]

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Wow, Dayton, I can't believe you keep arguing this.

Why? What's the point? You cannot win, and you cannot convince anyone.

Seriously, as said before, the rest of the world does not want to see another Bush in office.

Well, except maybe for our ex-Prime Minister here in Australia. We accused him of humping W's leg harder than Blair ever did. That's why he's getting a Presidential Medal of Freedom next week. Sad but true.

 

[Colonel Green]

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With the exception of all those Americans dying there...and the massive drug traffic.

And all the explosions.

Did you not read your opening post?

The drugs were there before we attacked.

The drugs were there before the Soviets invaded in 1979.

The drugs will be there long after the U.S. is gone.

Opium production was in decline pre-invasion. It has been increasing constistently since the fall of the Taliban, setting new records (both national and global) almost every year.

http://www.unodc.org/pdf/research/AFG07_ExSum_web.pdf

http://www.un.org/News/Press/docs/2004/afg269.doc.htm

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/jun/27/afghanistan.drugstrade

 

[Dayton3]

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With the exception of all those Americans dying there...and the massive drug traffic.

And all the explosions.

Did you not read your opening post?

The drugs were there before we attacked.

The drugs were there before the Soviets invaded in 1979.

The drugs will be there long after the U.S. is gone.

Opium production was in decline pre-invasion. It has been increasing constistently since the fall of the Taliban, setting new records (both national and global) almost every year.

http://www.unodc.org/pdf/research/AFG07_ExSum_web.pdf

http://www.un.org/News/Press/docs/2004/afg269.doc.htm

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/jun/27/afghanistan.drugstrade

So you are arguing that a murderous regime like the Taliban should've been left in power because it led to decreases in opium production.

I'm anti drug myself but that wouldn't be worth it.

 

[Red Ranger]

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The good news is Jeb isn't running for the U.S. Senate:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy...01/06/AR2009010602869.html?wprss=rss_politics

Read it and celebrate. Of course, the bad news is that doesn't rule out a presidential run.

I would think that after two Bushes in the White House that even the biggest yahoo would be reluctant to vote for another one! America is suffering from Bush fatigue.

Here's what I think will happen when the GOP seeks a nominee for president in 2012. None of the figures we think will win the nomination, not Mike "Rev. Gomer Pyle" Huckabee, not Mitt "Guy Smiley" Romney, not Rudy "Noun-Verb-9/11" Giuliani, and not even Sarah "Avon Lady" Palin. It will be someone who's unknown to the general public at this time. Mark my words!

Red Ranger

 

[CaptJimboJones]

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George Prescott Bush (Jeb's son) lives here in the Dallas area, and he's clearly being groomed for politics. He's half-Hispanic (his mother, Columba, is Mexican), he is apparently fluent in Spanish, he's an attorney and reportedly an incredibly charming and smart guy.

However, the Bush name is political death right now (even here in Texas), so I imagine that he'll bide his time. In 5-10 years, perhaps, I can see him making a run at Congress.

 

[Trekker4747]

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I would think that after two Bushes in the White House that even the biggest yahoo would be reluctant to vote for another one! America is suffering from Bush fatigue.

Considering W's approval rating isn't "0" I wouldn't be surprised if... "more simple" America would vote in another Bush because "he's the only one who can protect us from those brown people who want to kill us!"

 

[Red Ranger]

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I would think that after two Bushes in the White House that even the biggest yahoo would be reluctant to vote for another one! America is suffering from Bush fatigue.

Considering W's approval rating isn't "0" I wouldn't be surprised if... "more simple" America would vote in another Bush because "he's the only one who can protect us from those brown people who want to kill us!"

Thanks. Now I'm going to have a horrible nightmare tonight with that thought echoing in my brain! -- RR