Foreign numbers VERY Dissapointing.

[24thcenstfan]

I think the studio had to cover a lot of ground in the minds of the mainstream movie goer(domestic and foreign) with regards to encouraging interest in the movie/franchise. The studio will be on much better footing when marketing the second movie. I think this will have a positive effect on foreign sales for XII.

The overall domestic and foreign figures appear to have impressed and made the studio very happy. So that is a good thing.

 

[thumbtack]

While the current film has been the most successful Trek ever in foreign markets, I think its important to remember that the current film has been the most successful Trek ever in foreign markets.

 

[MvRojo]

While the current film has been the most successful Trek ever in foreign markets, I think its important to remember that the current film has been the most successful Trek ever in foreign markets.

 

[chrisspringob]

However...our cultures are "not so close." Have you travelled across Canada -- it is a nation of great diversity (Quebec, Atlantic Canada, B.C., Northern Canada, etc.) This regional diversity, in addition to very significant historical and political differences from the U.S., has resulted in our own cultural paradigm which is "not so close" to that of the USA. In fact, when you ask many Canadians what it means to "be a Canadian" they will most commonly reply "We are not Americans." It is true that there is a huge American influence in some parts of Canada, but overall our culture is quite different from that of the U.S.

http://www.theonion.com/content/node/33442

 

[Jeri]

http://www.theonion.com/content/node/33442

Teh Onion We drove up to visit relatives in Green Bay last weekend, and they carry the hard-copy Onion in the Jimmy John's. Wisconsin is like a whole nuther country...

 

[Blue_Trek]

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=iceage3.htm

ICE AGE:
DAWN OF THE DINOSAURS

Domestic: $184,416,992 25.2% + Foreign: $548,088,673 74.8% = Worldwide: $732,505,665

This illustrates the raw power of the foreign market these days, domestic used to be where it was at, but not anymore.

A movie like this could make 10 million domestic and still be a great success worldwide.

Viacom needs to make sure it does everything possible to pump up the numbers for XII in the foreign markets

 

[Borgminister]

To tell you the truth, I'd rather the movie did 500 M domestic and 200 abroad...

 

[Blue_Trek]

^^^

Sure I will take those numbers too, and be happy.

 

[Blue_Trek]

Please beat Twilight's worldwide box office

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/world/?pagenum=2&p=.htm

That's just not right.

 

[MvRojo]

Please beat Twilight's worldwide box office

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/world/?pagenum=2&p=.htm

That's just not right.

Hmm...that's gonna be close. It probably doesn't matter any way since New Moon will probably breeze past that...unfortunately.

 

[IndyJones]

http://www.theonion.com/content/node/33442

Teh Onion We drove up to visit relatives in Green Bay last weekend, and they carry the hard-copy Onion in the Jimmy John's. Wisconsin is like a whole nuther country...

It was a sad say when The Onion left Madison for NYC.

 

[Blue_Trek]

Here is another gem for messed up foreign vs domestic

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=mummy3.htm

 

[I am not Spock]

Wow. Trek, as successful as it is, can't beat the sparkling vampire emos?

That's how f'ed up the world is.

Trek XII hopefully will make a killing at the box office.

 

[Rii]

Here is another gem for messed up foreign vs domestic [...]

Given that the foreign market is at least ten times the size of the domestic market, in all cases it's only the degree to which the domestic market predominates that varies from film to film, not whether it does or not.

 

[_r_]

Who cares.

Star Trek will always be American mythology.

You only have to get to far as Scotland, to have seen half-empty theatres in the opening week (In central Glasgow no less.)

It's just resentment towards an idea that Star Trek suggests that doesn't go down well anywhere but America (maybe the UK, or Germany.)

If this is crap, then we can continue trying to discern this.

EDIT: Took a look at the comparative box offices between Star Trek and Wolverine, seems only in Anglo-saxon countries, Star Trek beat Wolverine. There is something in that. (And isn't only the English language, considering in some non-Latin-language territories, Wolverine beat Star Trek, up to ten times it's gross, but you could just easily postulate that violence and stupidity are the universal languages :P. )

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

It's just resentment towards an idea that Star Trek suggests that doesn't go down well anywhere but America (maybe the UK, or Germany.)

This is somewhat true. I don't know that it's resentment so much as it is just not relating to the idea/premise in the same way that Americans do. There's a good deal of triumphalism in Star Trek, among other things.

 

[JarodRussell]

Funny how it will always be "American mythology" when actually that specific thinking pattern is not part of Roddenberry's vision, and when a country like Germany, which had been Nazi hell only roughly 65 years ago, now have a woman and a gay dude in charge. I wonder how long it will take for Americans to be that extremely liberal.

But maybe it's because the Americans dream about being liberal like in Star Trek, while the foreign nations simply just do it.

 

[chrisspringob]

Given that the foreign market is at least ten times the size of the domestic market....

Not true. The US and Canada actually make up about 25% or so of world GDP.

 

[_r_]

Funny how it will always be "American mythology" when actually that specific thinking pattern is not part of Roddenberry's vision, and when a country like Germany, which had been Nazi hell only roughly 65 years ago, now have a woman and a gay dude in charge. I wonder how long it will take for Americans to be that extremely liberal.

But maybe it's because the Americans dream about being liberal like in Star Trek, while the foreign nations simply just do it.

You have to look what Star Trek actually is. It's imperialism vindicated. It's Americans going round space telling people how to act, how to live, and that's fine: I enjoy it.

You are right, it is liberal mythology, taken from America in the 60s, and not really indulgent to the resurgence of Conservative christianity, at least on a mass appeal, in today's America. But truly, the mythology is only perceived, as a whole, by those foreign markets, so they can reject it.

You can also blame the foreign markets, Europeans were not always unwilling to indulge a Star Trek picture, it's just lately, that many European countries have had somewhat of a cultural crisis and have become small-minded, unwilling to accept anything that will invalidate their increasingly precarious way of life. Same goes for South America and to a lesser extent, Japan.(Though I think it did okay there?)

And I really wouldn't give "Roddenberry's vision," veneration like that, considering that a pure Roddeberryesque vision, almost tanked TNG and was thrown out of the airlock, movie-wise, much earlier. Berman's unwillingness to deviate from it, gave us a bland, stately Star Trek that almost killed the entire franchise. However, at least it was vindication and held onto it's idea for a long time, even after his death.(Though I would argue the massive dark left-turn at the end(Nemesis and Enterprise Season 3), turned the knife.)

Bit of a long post :P

EDIT: Actually I think Roddenberry managed to exclude any subtext of imperialism from the earlier seasons of TNG, believe or not, I think Jeri Taylor(you wouldn't expect, no) was the one who slight etched it towards a more imperialist angle (Insert Voyager crewmember challenging Bland, backwards culture.)