For TNG HD, I hope they fix the shuttle bay interior shots.

[The Rock]

For TNG HD, I hope they fix the shuttle bay interior shots. And by that I mean all of the interior shots of the shuttle bays (2 and 3) where whenever the doors opened, it would make you believe the shuttle bay doors were at a 90 degree angle which contradicted the outside shots where the shuttle bay doors were curved at a 45 degree angle.

Do you think that's one of the things they'll fix? Also I hope they show the nacelles and stuff from inside of the shuttle bays.

 

[cbspock]

Isn't the door we saw open in the shuttle bays an inner door??? We never saw the outer doors. Or am I wrong??


-Chris

 

[Tosk]

^There are many shots that show the door from such an angle that there is clearly no angled hull outside the door where it should be, so the inner door excuse doesn't really work...unfortunately.

But no, I doubt they will fix it. TNGR doesn't appear to be about that kind of stuff.

 

[cbspock]

Well they can fix the phaser firing from the torpedo bay in Darmok. lol


-Chris

 

[Start Wreck]

Live-action shots aren't going to be fixed like that. You're talking about changing the shape of the actual set during a multitude of moving shots throughout several episodes of the show. It's too complicated.
However adding visible parts of the hull through the shuttlebay door is relatively easy, because the starfield outside was an optical effect in the first place. They could even add an "outer door" that opens separately.

But I don't think they will do any of this.

 

[SonicRanger]

For TNG HD, I hope they fix the shuttle bay interior shots. And by that I mean all of the interior shots of the shuttle bays (2 and 3) where whenever the doors opened, it would make you believe the shuttle bay doors were at a 90 degree angle which contradicted the outside shots where the shuttle bay doors were curved at a 45 degree angle.

Obviously the two smaller shuttlebays are inclined 45º with respect to the rest of the ship to make the approaches easier -- that why the doors look inclined 45º from the outside and perpendicular to the floor from the inside.

 

[Tosk]

^I know you're just joking, but there are shots in the show that preclude that excuse too.

 

[Gary7]

I never noticed this before... the shots are so brief, that I don't think they'd bother to fix something that like 90% of the viewers wouldn't have noticed to begin with.

 

[TheSeeker]

There is actually already a TNG-HD F/X wishlist thread. http://www.trekbbs.com/showthread.php?t=141861

 

[Mark_Nguyen]

It's not just the angle fo the exterior hull, it's the perspective. For example, in "The Child", there's no practical way to have seen the USS Repulse from where ANY of the shuttlebays are located, based on the orientation and placement of the ships in the stock shot.

Mark

 

[Timo]

...Unless we assume a cut between the interior and exterior scenes, during which the ships maneuvered. And place the shuttle action in a ventral cargo bay.

there are shots in the show that preclude that excuse too.

What sort of shots?

In the exterior view, they carefully avoided showing the shuttlebays during final approach or early departure, because the doors on the ship model couldn't really be opened. In the interior view, I don't think we ever saw any part of the ship (such as a nacelle) from the bay doors. At the very best, we might have seen a shuttle emerge from Bay 2 or 3 flying horizontally (that is, parallel to the nacelles), but that proves nothing - it could have made a tight turn right after passing the doors.

Timo Saloniemi

 

[CorporalCaptain]

I never noticed this before... the shots are so brief, that I don't think they'd bother to fix something that like 90% of the viewers wouldn't have noticed to begin with.

or > 99%

 

[Tosk]

What sort of shots?

Any shots when a character (usually Geordi, I'd imagine) walked over to examine the master systems display. It shows all three shuttlebays at the same orientation as the rest of the ship.

The 'vertical hull' problem wasn't just limited to the lesser shuttlebays either. In Best of Both Worlds pt II, Worf and Data exit the saucer section shuttlebay and we see a vertical hull outside their window. And we can rely on more than the MSD to prove that the main shuttlebay is at the same angle as the rest of the decks, due to a shot of it opening in Cause and Effect.

Sometimes "Someone goofed" is the easiest answer rather than silly excuses.

...it's a pity, 'cause the angled shuttlebay excuse sure would help with Galaxy's Child. We see the Child on the exterior flattened against the angled hull, and the interior where it appears to be flattened against the seemingly vertical hull. Oh well.

 

[Gary7]

Sometimes "Someone goofed" is the easiest answer rather than silly excuses.

A very common thing often overlooked in TBBS discussions.

 

[Salinga]

Shouldnt you be able to see the warp narcelles from the windows of the observation lounge?

 

[FalTorPan]

^ In most cases it should be possible to see the rear half of the saucer, plus the rear tips of the nacelles.

 

[Hober Mallow]

Sometimes "Someone goofed" is the easiest answer rather than silly excuses.

I think the answer is even simpler than that. They needed a shuttle bay interior for an episode and didn't have one, so they simply redressed the cargo bay set and hoped no one would notice the incongruity.

To add to the silliness, in those early season episodes, the shuttles themselved changed shape as soon as they would depart the ship; the large shuttle shown in the interior bore virtually no resemblence to the model.

I hope they don't "fix" any of it. If I can accept a Tardis, I can accept something as trifling as contradictory angles.