For those who complain about lens flare.

[M.A.C.O.]

I didn't mind the flares during the space scenes. Those were pretty cool and gave a certain feel to the film. The flares were annoying during the bridge scenes, and the bar scene.

JJ said he added them in their to show how bright Roddenberry's vision of the world was and that it just couldn't be contained on the screen. He's admitted he went overboard when adding them to the film. There were a lot in his Super 8 film but I trust that he will find the perfect balance for his unique style in the next Trek film

 

[The Wormhole]

I think TPD was something Janeway adopted after she heard Captain Braxton say it at the end of "Future's End". Kirk, Picard, Sisko.... never mention it.

The first referance to the Temporal Prime Directive by name was by Picard in A Matter of Time.

2) he still has to obey the law of the land. In the Federation, the TPD applies to civilians as well as Starfleet officers, just like the original PD does.

Federation civilians are not required to follow the Prime Directive. This was stated in TNG's Angel One.

 

[Set Harth]

JJ said he added them in their to show how bright Roddenberry's vision of the world was and that it just couldn't be contained on the screen.

Wow, he really doesn't get metaphor.

 

[CaptJimboJones]

I thought they made for a vibrant visual style that was totally consistent with the overall look of the film. They don't bother me at all.

 

[Sector 7]

"If I listened to the fans then Star Trek would be shit." -Gene Roddenberry

I think this sums up GR's views of how influential his fan base's opinions were. If JJ Abrams made one mistake in his 2009 movie, it was not following Roddenberry's precedent. The whole 'alternate timeline' scene was done for the benefit of the 'existing fan base'.

As for the lens flares, while I found them distracting the first viewing, it was because so many talked about it on TrekBBS. Subsequent viewings were not lessened by the lens flares, although I was relieved when JJ Abrams admitted he went overboard on them... and said he would tone them down in sequels.

 

[Therin of Andor]

If JJ Abrams made one mistake in his 2009 movie, it was not following Roddenberry's precedent. The whole 'alternate timeline' scene was done for the benefit of the 'existing fan base'.

The writers were serving their own fannish interests, too. They liked the idea of preserving the old sandbox and creating a new one. And good on 'em.

 

[7thsealord]

If JJ Abrams made one mistake in his 2009 movie, it was not following Roddenberry's precedent. The whole 'alternate timeline' scene was done for the benefit of the 'existing fan base'.

The writers were serving their own fannish interests, too. They liked the idea of preserving the old sandbox and creating a new one. And good on 'em.

Agreed.

What was the alternative, really? Faithfully replicate the series? I don't think so.

The idea was to get new people interested in a re-energized franchise, not just do a retread to keep the Old Guard happy.

 

[spaceoddity]

Am I the only one who loved the lens flares? I thought they added to the movie. I hardly ever even consciously noticed them. I don't get why people hate them so much

 

[M'Sharak]

Am I the only one who loved the lens flares? I thought they added to the movie. I hardly ever even consciously noticed them. I don't get why people hate them so much

Most don't hate them, and a lot of people barely noticed they were there at all. Much ado about nothing, really.

 

[MarsWeeps]

If anyone saw the DVD extras, they know how much JJ loves the lens flares. They'll be a part of Star Trek for as long as he directs.

"Nice flare!"

Someone should shove a road flare up JJ's rear and light it!

 

[7thsealord]

Am I the only one who loved the lens flares? I thought they added to the movie. I hardly ever even consciously noticed them. I don't get why people hate them so much

Not so much hate as regard them as overused.

 

[The Wormhole]

Overused is right. I recentally caught part of Trek XI on TV, Kirk's barfight against "Cupcake" and his gang. There's a lens flare practically ten seconds. You have to do specific work indeed to include a lens flare every ten seconds in a scene set in a darkened bar at night.

I will say, Abrams Lens Flare were brilliantly parodied in the Doctor Who 2010 Christmas special.

 

[Psion]

I will say, Abrams Lens Flare were brilliantly parodied in the Doctor Who 2010 Christmas special.

I chuckled at that, too.

 

[shapeshifter]

Also, MI:GP, for which JJ has a Producer credit, I recall noticing at least one Abram-esqe flare which made me smile.

 

[M'Sharak]

I will say, Abrams Lens Flare were brilliantly parodied in the Doctor Who 2010 Christmas special.

Don't think I've seen that yet - got a link?

 

[The Wormhole]

I will say, Abrams Lens Flare were brilliantly parodied in the Doctor Who 2010 Christmas special.

Don't think I've seen that yet - got a link?

Sadly, no. I just spent a few minutes scouring through YouTube, but they don't seem to have any clips.

Basically, there are scenes in the episode set on a starship bridge, which is designed in the traditional Trek bridge motif. In fact the various computer monitors and displays look similar to the ones in Trek XI During every scene set on the bridge, there's a lens flare going off every ten seconds, just like in Trek XI.

 

[Psion]

I will say, Abrams Lens Flare were brilliantly parodied in the Doctor Who 2010 Christmas special.

Don't think I've seen that yet - got a link?

Here, have a look at this ...

I stripped out the audio and slowed the sequence down slightly.

 

[M'Sharak]

I will say, Abrams Lens Flare were brilliantly parodied in the Doctor Who 2010 Christmas special.

Don't think I've seen that yet - got a link?

Here, have a look at this ...

I stripped out the audio and slowed the sequence down slightly.

Heh, okay - I see what you mean. Got a nod to goosenecks and barcode readers in, besides. (And Pond's looking all right. )

 

[Sindatur]

Am I the only one who loved the lens flares? I thought they added to the movie. I hardly ever even consciously noticed them. I don't get why people hate them so much

Some of us couldn't see anything because the Lens flare on the bridge blinded us and gave us white spots. I wasn't bothered at all anywhere but the bridge, but, the bridge with all the white and the glare made it impossible to appreciate the bridge.

 

[Tribble puncher]

If anyone saw the DVD extras, they know how much JJ loves the lens flares. They'll be a part of Star Trek for as long as he directs.

"Nice flare!"

There you go.

Rick Moranis!