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FLASH series being developed for The CW

I'd much rather just see a fun, action-packed Flash movie myself. I'm not really interested in seeing him get the Smallville/Arrow treatment, and sticking him in yet another moody CW soap opera with yet another complex mythology.

Not to mention that I just can't see them doing anything terribly flashy or cool with his powers on a TV budget (at least not judging by the cheesy superspeed effects we saw on Smallville).
 
I am interested to see how a TV show would be handled. I am alo happy they are still doing the Flash movie, But I wonder if that is overkill?
 
davejames said:
I'd much rather just see a fun, action-packed Flash movie myself. I'm not really interested in seeing him get the Smallville/Arrow treatment, and sticking him in yet another moody CW soap opera with yet another complex mythology.
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I question the premise that there's such a thing as "the Smallville/Arrow treatment." Despite their superficial similarities, I find them very different shows.


Not to mention that I just can't see them doing anything terribly flashy or cool with his powers on a TV budget (at least not judging by the cheesy superspeed effects we saw on Smallville).
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I guess you haven't seen the 1990 Flash TV series, then. They did some very impressive visual-effects work for their time. Although that may be a matter of budget.

And actually I think Smallville did some pretty impressive work when it went into Clark's accelerated POV and did things in a bullet-time slow-motion style. I often felt that would make a lot of sense for showing the Flash's powers, since his own perceptions are similarly accelerated. That's one thing the '90 show didn't do -- since The Matrix hadn't happened yet -- so it could be a good way to differentiate this Flash show from that one.
 
Fuck tone.

I want Ollie to skewer Supermen and Superwomen.

It's hilarious.

GODS brought low by a bow and arrow kit.
 
All I have to say is: If it's about another whiny teenager version of a DC hero, Ya'll can have it.
 
Christopher said:
I question the premise that there's such a thing as "the Smallville/Arrow treatment." Despite their superficial similarities, I find them very different shows.
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Maybe, but neither one are really the kind of thing I want to see for a Flash series. The tone would probably have to be a lot lighter and more fun than anything the CW typically does.

I guess you haven't seen the 1990 Flash TV series, then. They did some very impressive visual-effects work for their time. Although that may be a matter of budget.

And actually I think Smallville did some pretty impressive work when it went into Clark's accelerated POV and did things in a bullet-time slow-motion style. I often felt that would make a lot of sense for showing the Flash's powers, since his own perceptions are similarly accelerated. That's one thing the '90 show didn't do -- since The Matrix hadn't happened yet -- so it could be a good way to differentiate this Flash show from that one.
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I remember liking the original superspeed effect they used in the 90s series, but after awhile they switched to just drawing a simple red blur behind him-- which is basically the same thing they did on Smallville, and which I just thought looked cheesy as hell.
 
This could be pretty cool. At first I was excited because I thought it meant they might be adding superpowers to Arrow, but after reading some of the quotes and comments on here I'm wondering if they'll save the superpowers for the Flash series. But, it would mean that there are superpowers in this version of the DCUniverse at least.
I wonder if the Amazon show takes off after this starts, if they'll then use this to set it up like they're using Arrow for this. I would love to see a big interconnected DCU on The CW. Even though superhero movies tend to be some of my favorites, I do still think that comic book adaptations work on TV, where we can get a more detailed exploration of the characters and their universe.
 
More information from Deadline Hollywood:

The Flash will appear in three episodes of the CW's Arrow this coming season before headlining his own spinoff series. The information was shared this afternoon by the three writers – Arrow co-creators Greg Berlanti and Andrew Kreisberg and series scribe Geoff Johns — behind the Flash project. an origin story of Flash’s Barry Allen identity. The episodes, No. 8, No. 9 and No. 20, will be penned by the trio, with David Nutter, who helmed the Arrow pilot, committed to directing Episode 20. Kriesberg also confirmed during the conference call today that the actor who portrays Barry Allen will play him as “an ordinary man” when viewers meet him in Episode 8. “The character will be as grounded and realistic as possible,” he said. “That’s how we’ll get to know him. Then his life will get a bit faster.” He added that the surrounding characters in Arrow will react to Allen “in a very realistic way,” noting that they “won’t be treated as commonplace on the show but as extraordinary events.” Kreisberg added: “It will be fun for the audience to see how we do our take on The Flash’s powers. Some will feel very familiar to those who know the comics, and other stuff will feel different yet fresh and exciting.” Berlanti noted, “That said, he does need powers to become The Flash. And he will be The Flash. He will wear a red costume, and he will go by that name.”
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And more on the conference call from The Hollywood Reporter:

One of the things that makes CW's Arrow the most grounded is the fact that the series isn't about individuals with superpowers -- with the Flash a clear violation of that. Producers noted that they'll handle the introduction of Barry's superspeed in a way that isn't commonplace. "There will be extraordinary events in the world and the characters will react in the same way," Kreisberg noted.

"The fact he has superpowers, there's something more relatable about Barry among of the Big Seven of the Justice League," he added. "He got his powers by accident; he's not a god, he's not an alien … his reactions to that feel very … human and grounded.

Since Flash is a back-door pilot episode of Arrow, the character will mix it up with Oliver -- providing a stark contrast to the two heroes.

"Oliver Queen is very dark and tortured soul and Barry is not," Kreisberg said, noting he will have a profound impact on Oliver, Diggle and Felicity. "He's a great character who is going to affect all of our characters lives. It will be fun … to see these two characters together because they have two different worlds."

Added Johns: "We're also exploring a very personal story for Barry, life as forensic scientist and the people around him, the tragedies and how he deals with them in a very different way than Oliver Queen. The intention, they noted, will be to add to Arrow instead of stripping away characters from the series should the spinoff move forward, meaning it's likely the residents of Starling City will remain there.

Johns reiterated that the Justice League member will be seen as the Flash -- complete with his trademark red costume and not a poor imitation. Added Kreisberg: "No sweat suits or strange code names; he will be The Flash."

Producers haven't yet figured out how they plan to depict the Flash's lightning speed but Johns insisted it won't just be the standard "blurring around."
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Well that extra info sounds very good. Having an extraordinary event create the Flash means it wont happen a lot and leaves an opening for versions of the classic rogues.
 
Well nice to hear he'll be wearing an actual costume at least. Be interesting to see what they come up with.
 
I wonder if they will tame Barrys powers down to the Wally level back when his series originaly started. Cant exceed the speed of sound, cant vibrate through things, has to eat constantly. A full blown Flash is a very powerful creature. I also hope the Speed Force figures into things. This would allow them to actually introduce dare I say Wally at some point in the series.
Captain Cold, Heatwave, The Top, Captain Boomerang, Mirror Master, Reverse Flash and The Eradicator(no not the Superman one) top my list of villians to see.
Colonel Computron, Big Sir, and Rainbow Raider need never appear.
 
Since they're using Barry Allen (YAY!!!) in the series, I wonder if they'll use Wally West (as the main character) in the movie. Seems like that would be a way to divide series and movie continuities while still allowing crossover with the two characters...Although I guess they can't both be called the Flash if they're both active at the same time? I stopped reading the comic book before Wally showed up, I think.
 
I would think any mention of Jay would be a bad idea. This would mean some type of heroes were out there fighting in the past and again noone remembers them. Best if Ollie and Barry were two of the first.
 
Flash on TV again....I'm game.

I'm behind and only seen segments of Arrow. Need to watch a few episodes and get a better feel for what that shows tone is like and how that might affect Flash.
 
I was skeptical at first but with this new information I am cautiously optimistic.
 
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