I am actually pretty happy with the show as it stands now. It had a really rocky start but I am glad I came back to it for the second half of the season, which really got a whole lot better. The second season premier was very well done I thought.
Fix Stargate Universe
- Thread starter Agent Richard07
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How could they possibly have a video conference over billions of light years? That really would be betraying the premise of the show.
Keep: 
Rush - He must be relegated to a 2nd in command role, which allows the character to continue to be an antagonist.
Greer - Put him on some meds; the man seems psychotic. Or kill him off, I don't much care.
James - She's likeable and has potential to play a strong female role on their SG team.
TJ - Put her into med school via the stones and turn her into an actual doctor. Duh.
Chloe - I could see keeping her if Scott leaves. She performed well on the Lost mission, but her stupid relationship with Scott seems to hold her character back. Give her some skills, and put her to work.
Lose:
Young - He's a loose cannon, and not in a good way. Send him back to Earth or kill him heroically. Definitely end the BS with that wife of his.
Telford - Whether or not he's really such a bravo foxtrot as he came off with Telford's wife (or whether that was his Alliance brainwashing), the character is too damaged by those actions. Kill him heroically.
Scott - He's bland, and he's got the perfect excuse to leave (his son) if they can gate home.
Eli - He's got a great reason to go back home (to watch his mother die), so put him in a consultant role back on Earth. We don't need a nerdy Rush Jr.
Wray - She's done little but proven herself to be an incompetent, petulent character, and I'd like to see her die horribly. It's a pity that she wasn't eaten by the aliens in Time, during the last iteration, so that the crew said, "Well, we've tried this in a couple timelines, and we've got our venom. Guess Wray was an acceptible loss. No need to try and get everything perfect, you know."
Bring on Board:
Sheppard from SG-A. Seriously. Make him a full Col. and place him in charge of the mission. The show needs a little of Sheppard's style to loosen things up, but also to provide the crew with actual leadership. No need to keep the captain on the ship - send him off on SG missions. Worked for Kirk.
Amanda Perry, cure her of her illness, but trap her on Destiny as a result (see below). She brought out a much-needed aspect of Rush's character.
Destiny - Give the crew control over the ship. Bring in McKay and Jackson to work with Rush (via the stones) and get the bloody thing working. Ramp up the enemy threat level. Give them one gate home and one gate back, then use it to eliminate the dead weight in the crew and to bring in fresh blood.
Set it up so Destiny has primitive nanites that can cure a small range of ailments (do not turn these into miracle nanoprobes!!!) if activated by the computer, but the nanites will only work onboard the ship. That's how Chloe was healed, but if Chloe subsequently left, her wound would reopen and she'd have to re-heal her gunshot wound herself (that would be an interesting episode, btw). If Perry's condition is cured by the ship, she's forced to stay aboard or the cure will shut down and she'd be sick again. Say Whats-his-face who used the chair and disappeared was zapped into the computer (and was thus the one who saved Chloe).
Plot lines - More aliens, more ships, more of a focus on the SG missions, not the shipboard drama.
Contact with Earth - allow one dial out (first one, dump the alliance soldiers and the crew listed above) per year or two. Perhaps have a a gate capacitor charging up that can be used as an explanation. Allow one dial-in, perhaps from Atlantis, to resupply and exchange crew. Use the stones more intelligently, and bring in interesting guests from the other shows.
I want to see Jeannie Miller again, too.
Rush - He must be relegated to a 2nd in command role, which allows the character to continue to be an antagonist.
Greer - Put him on some meds; the man seems psychotic. Or kill him off, I don't much care.
James - She's likeable and has potential to play a strong female role on their SG team.
TJ - Put her into med school via the stones and turn her into an actual doctor. Duh.
Chloe - I could see keeping her if Scott leaves. She performed well on the Lost mission, but her stupid relationship with Scott seems to hold her character back. Give her some skills, and put her to work.
Lose:
Young - He's a loose cannon, and not in a good way. Send him back to Earth or kill him heroically. Definitely end the BS with that wife of his.
Telford - Whether or not he's really such a bravo foxtrot as he came off with Telford's wife (or whether that was his Alliance brainwashing), the character is too damaged by those actions. Kill him heroically.
Scott - He's bland, and he's got the perfect excuse to leave (his son) if they can gate home.
Eli - He's got a great reason to go back home (to watch his mother die), so put him in a consultant role back on Earth. We don't need a nerdy Rush Jr.
Wray - She's done little but proven herself to be an incompetent, petulent character, and I'd like to see her die horribly. It's a pity that she wasn't eaten by the aliens in Time, during the last iteration, so that the crew said, "Well, we've tried this in a couple timelines, and we've got our venom. Guess Wray was an acceptible loss. No need to try and get everything perfect, you know."
Bring on Board:
Sheppard from SG-A. Seriously. Make him a full Col. and place him in charge of the mission. The show needs a little of Sheppard's style to loosen things up, but also to provide the crew with actual leadership. No need to keep the captain on the ship - send him off on SG missions. Worked for Kirk.
Amanda Perry, cure her of her illness, but trap her on Destiny as a result (see below). She brought out a much-needed aspect of Rush's character.
Destiny - Give the crew control over the ship. Bring in McKay and Jackson to work with Rush (via the stones) and get the bloody thing working. Ramp up the enemy threat level. Give them one gate home and one gate back, then use it to eliminate the dead weight in the crew and to bring in fresh blood.
Set it up so Destiny has primitive nanites that can cure a small range of ailments (do not turn these into miracle nanoprobes!!!) if activated by the computer, but the nanites will only work onboard the ship. That's how Chloe was healed, but if Chloe subsequently left, her wound would reopen and she'd have to re-heal her gunshot wound herself (that would be an interesting episode, btw). If Perry's condition is cured by the ship, she's forced to stay aboard or the cure will shut down and she'd be sick again. Say Whats-his-face who used the chair and disappeared was zapped into the computer (and was thus the one who saved Chloe).
Plot lines - More aliens, more ships, more of a focus on the SG missions, not the shipboard drama.
Contact with Earth - allow one dial out (first one, dump the alliance soldiers and the crew listed above) per year or two. Perhaps have a a gate capacitor charging up that can be used as an explanation. Allow one dial-in, perhaps from Atlantis, to resupply and exchange crew. Use the stones more intelligently, and bring in interesting guests from the other shows.
I want to see Jeannie Miller again, too.
Obviously everyone has their own opinion on how this show should change and even a few who like it as is. I'm hoping the writers at least see or hear of these ideas from the fan boards (I've heard they actually visit a few from time to time so it's possible).
But realistically I doubt most of what we think should happen will happen unless it's coincidental. Would be nice to see some changes of some sort go on. The LA are a good start but they feel squandered.
But realistically I doubt most of what we think should happen will happen unless it's coincidental. Would be nice to see some changes of some sort go on. The LA are a good start but they feel squandered.
I don't think the show is horrendous, but it would benefit from a lot of ideas seen here.
SGU, in my opinion, is the DS9 of Stargate in it's concept, meaning that they wanted to try something outside of the normal exploration. That still may be somewhat of a cultural shock to people.
^^^note : the first few seasons of DS9 were BAD!, but it got better and became my favorite trek..it was dark and serious yet it kept the lightheartedness and humor of the other treks oh and action! :P
If anything DS9 probably had the most humour compared to any Trek show. I'm not just referring to the Ferengi (though they were funny), Garak had quite a bit of awesome one-liners, Odo had a sarcastic wit, and so on. I'm pretty sure every character on that show made me laugh at least one.
Besides, it wasn't until the third season DS9 truly started to be "different." The first season largely consisted of stories that could have been done on TNG with very little changes. The second did have its differences, but there were also quite a few similarities to TNG. The third was when DS9 found its own identity.
The problem with Chloe is her relationship with Scott. The writers have spent too much time showing her fromping around with him. What she needs to be taken seriously as a character are more demonstrations of her utility, such as her help in the tunnels in "Lost".
Then explain why I'm an avid fan of: The Shield, The Wire, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Angel, Homicide: Life on the Street, Babylon 5, Battlestar Galactica, Lost, Arrested Development, The Office, Batman: The Animated Series, Fringe, Mad Men, Rubicon, Boardwalk Empire, The Sopranos, Sons of Anarchy, Terriers, Deadwood, Oz, Scrubs, Veronica Mars, and The West Wing. And that list is hardly comprehensive of genuinely good television that I've watched; it's merely based on a list of what I currently own and am currently watching.Stargate Universe sadly is far, far from "good tv," and threads like this when detail the myriad problems the show has.
I, for one, would drop the communication stones. That makes for far too easy an out for the writer to take.
Kill Chloe off and stop having Rush talk to people that exist solely in his head (far too reminiscent of the BSG storyline).
Stop wrapping everything up in the last 5 minutes and for Pete's sake, drop the musical montages at the end of the episode; those are cringe-inducing.
So far, I'm liking SGU a little more than Atlantis, but not much. If they keep going the way they're going, I don't see much hope for it.
Kill Chloe off and stop having Rush talk to people that exist solely in his head (far too reminiscent of the BSG storyline).
Stop wrapping everything up in the last 5 minutes and for Pete's sake, drop the musical montages at the end of the episode; those are cringe-inducing.
So far, I'm liking SGU a little more than Atlantis, but not much. If they keep going the way they're going, I don't see much hope for it.
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