Preservers did it. Apparently they made like 3 copies of Earth. And 2 of Vulcan or something.
First Federation
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Christopher Bennett only invented the Regency in "The Buried Age". Some people just can't be pleased.
Do we even know if "First" is the translated English word or if it's actually their name?
For all I know, there's no reason why "First" couldn't be their species or culture.
I mean, if you were speaking Norwegian, the Breen would be the Glacier, so why can't First be another linguistic "co-incidence". 
They're Firsts from Firstia.
For all I know, there's no reason why "First" couldn't be their species or culture.
I mean, if you were speaking Norwegian, the Breen would be the Glacier, so why can't First be another linguistic "co-incidence". They're Firsts from Firstia.
It's the Fist Generation, but let's not even go there. Ooops.
I don't want to know what you think is interesting, Xortex, I want to know where you get your certainty from.
They make such terrible and selfish lovers.
But not nearly as awkward as the Fists from Fistia.
I don't think that Star Wars was supposed to be a parallel universe, no. I think it was literally supposed to be in the distant past in a distant galaxy.
And even if that was true, I don't see how that would support your argument or idea about it in the slightest. I don't see any connection between Star Wars possibly being in a parallel universe and the First Federation being some alternate timeline version of the Federation or something.
Well, a lot of laypeople have been known to confuse the terms "galaxy" and "universe."
Of course, all that Star Wars' opening was really meant to be was a play on the opening of a fairy tale: "Once upon a time, in a land far, far away." The intent, originally, was to let the audience know that Star Wars was simply a fairy tale dressed up with space-opera trappings, with no more seriousness or pretention to it than that. However, over the past quarter-century, its fans (and George Lucas himself) have come to take it far more seriously than it was originally intended to be.
Now that I think about it. What the hell is a parallel universe? if there is such a thing. Alternate reality is one thing. Now I am confused. I usually have twelve other operations going in my mind while I'm on the computer, while listening to a Ligeti opera or something. I guess I'm not Data yet.
But about the fairy tale thing, I remember the lead singer from the Foo fighters calling Kurt Cobain's songs simple little nursery rhymes, I do see his point, but I just bought Incecticide, Nirvana's first album, and I defy anyone, even him to write as good stuff, even though he was the drummer in the band. It's the best album I've ever heard.
But about the fairy tale thing, I remember the lead singer from the Foo fighters calling Kurt Cobain's songs simple little nursery rhymes, I do see his point, but I just bought Incecticide, Nirvana's first album, and I defy anyone, even him to write as good stuff, even though he was the drummer in the band. It's the best album I've ever heard.
I guess the Galaxies are in there somewhere...
Hmm... Yeah I got nothing.
In fiction, "parallel universe" is usually used interchangeably with "alternate timeline" or "alternate reality." It's inaccurate, but commonplace.
Strictly speaking, a parallel universe would be another spacetime continuum existing alongside ours in some higher-dimensional space. Just as two or more 2-dimensional "Flatland" universes could be stacked parallel to each other in the third dimension, so 3-D universes could be parallel to each other through a fourth or higher dimension. But these wouldn't be alternate histories with goateed evil twins of individual human beings or an Earth where dinosaurs won the Civil War; they'd be entirely separate places with different stars and planets and life forms, if they even had similar enough laws of physics to allows stars, planets, or life to exist in the first place.
There was a never published Star Wars novel in the works once that would have tied Earth's future to Star Wars. It had humans from 25th century earth thrown back in time to the galaxy far far away. The novel, Alien Exodus, isn't canon but some fan fic uses it to explain the origins of Star Wars.
Oops, duplicate post.
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I turned the Ligeti off (it was actually Berlioz's Symphony Phantastique), but how do you get alternate realities again, you know the ones where Ulysses S. Grant is a dinosaur? In relationship to a (temporal) schism? If the Star Wars analogy takes place in our universe, then the First Federation can be part of the Star Wars universe, sort of revisiting us. But you're saying it can't be an alternate reality or universe, dare I say it again, which seems synonymous with history as in 'Mirror, Mirror'. This is where Star Trek gets devoured by Star Wars and Kirk has to go way back in time to kill Harrison Ford. It gets complicated from here. Cris, are you still there. I lost myself at temporal schism.
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Nirvana's first album was Bleach. Incesticide ws a compilation of odds and sods released years later to cash in on Nirvana's success.
Ligeti wrote an opera. Who knew? All I have is a collection of his choral music.
Ligeti wrote an opera. Who knew? All I have is a collection of his choral music.
What you gotta do, Steve, is go in a bad neighborhood and blast a Ligetti opera out your car window. It's hilarious. I think it's great music but I'm too poor to own a record myself which is a sin since I'm a classical musician but I didn't realize that wasn't there first album. No wonder it was better even than Bleach. That's funny.
I've heard of that. I wish it was written, I liked the outline very much.
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