Okay, I'll try it, but if that's the case, then why doesn't it work using the yellow smiley? I'll try what you are suggesting, but I've never had to do this before. Spoiler: about text It looks like that's the issue, but that's interesting. Still, that's a settings issue because I've never had to do this before in any other forum that I've used that has vB software (as shown in the pic from the other forum I provided). It is what it is, though. At least this works now. Thanks for your help.