Tilly is a cadet. and Stamets were probably just humoring here.
Finally Watching Discovery - Was I Supoosed to Hate This?
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Yup.
I didn’t say the show was successful in its edgy.
Killjoys mostly is. And has more soul.
Absolutely. As you pointed out earlier, it was just "a cute fucking moment," coming from what is probably the sunniest, least edgy character on the show.
As for the "professionalism" thing . .. the scene acknowledged that it was a bit of an "oops" moment for Tilly, who is a green young cadet, known to lack a filter, and who looked suitably embarrassed afterwards. And Stamets echoes her just to let her off the hook for a moment of youthful enthusiasm. At no point did the scene imply that f-words are commonly thrown about while on duty.
And as for the notion that every crew member is supposed to a consummate professional at all times. For Gene's sake, they're supposed to be human beings, too, not flawless paragons of perfect behavior. Kirk lost his temper sometimes and had a weakness for a pretty face, McCoy could be cranky and irascible, Scotty liked his liquor and the occasional bar brawl, and Chekov could be green and impetuous. Honestly, I can see Chekov having a "Tilly" moment if the NBC would have allowed it back in the day.
How do you say "fucking cool" in Russian?
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Reagarding ST: D viewership numvbers, there's also this:
https://comicbook.com/startrek/2018/12/01/star-trek-discovery-global-tv-demand-award/
Now, it may not win, but the fact it was nominated does seem to indicate people are watching.
It would have made a lot more sense to me had she been shown using that sort of profanity regularly in off-duty settings. But she didn’t, before or after, so it doesn’t seem genuine or true to her character. Why would she blurt that out in a workplace setting if she doesn’t talk that way normally? It just makes her seem dim.
That it’s such an isolated moment makes it feel very try-hard. It’s the same writing problem we see throughout the series, such as in the freeing of the Tardigrade. The writers were going for moments, rather than letting the story unfold organically.
Having sworn in front of someone who I never thought I would, it made me extremely self-conscious for a long time to come. I can see where Tilly is coming from.
My species is biologically determined for one purpose alone- to sense the coming of trekbbs posters who will refute this as a valid data point indicating DSC is a success.
I sense them coming now.
I loved that they used the f-bomb as a positive. It wasn't "Fuck you, asshole!", it was an excited, "this is fucking cool!"
No, they didn't need to do it. But they did it right.
And they were excited about SCIENCE.
Isn't STAR TREK supposed to preach that science is fucking cool?
It's not fucking edgy that Tilly said "fucking cool" but, to be honest, they were testing the waters with the new format and it was pretty fucking cool.
If someone has issue with this, they damn well better stay clear of the Quentin Fucking Tarantino Star Trek movie or they'll totally lose their shit. When I go see Tarantino Trek, I'm going to have a Big Cuhuna Burger courtesy of Mister Flock of Seagulls over there. Right over there. -->
On a more serious note, though, this is my stance on the MPAA and what I think is so messed up about it. Dropping F-bombs is the least of my concerns about what's "appropriate". The rest of my post is cut and pasted from here:
Mutilate someone, and kill lots of people with blood splashing everywhere, and it's Rated R. Show the wrong body part and "Oh no!" It's NC-17.
Then take the Rated R movie, take out most of the blood and all of the guts, but don't change anything else and now it's PG-13 but instead of being better it's worse because now the consequences aren't as bad and the violence isn't as ugly. It's glorifying the violence instead of showing its brutality.
The MPAA and its values seriously need to be re-evaluated. This is something I've been saying for years.
If someone has issue with this, they damn well better stay clear of the Quentin Fucking Tarantino Star Trek movie or they'll totally lose their shit. When I go see Tarantino Trek, I'm going to have a Big Cuhuna Burger courtesy of Mister Flock of Seagulls over there. Right over there. -->
On a more serious note, though, this is my stance on the MPAA and what I think is so messed up about it. Dropping F-bombs is the least of my concerns about what's "appropriate". The rest of my post is cut and pasted from here:
Mutilate someone, and kill lots of people with blood splashing everywhere, and it's Rated R. Show the wrong body part and "Oh no!" It's NC-17.
Then take the Rated R movie, take out most of the blood and all of the guts, but don't change anything else and now it's PG-13 but instead of being better it's worse because now the consequences aren't as bad and the violence isn't as ugly. It's glorifying the violence instead of showing its brutality.
The MPAA and its values seriously need to be re-evaluated. This is something I've been saying for years.
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Just to avoid confusion, since not everyone has watched DISCO, it wasn't Captain Killy (or even Tilly pretending to be Killy) that said "fucking cool." It was regular Tilly who enthused about a new discovery being "fucking cool."
It wasn't a Mirror Universe thing.
Excited is one thing, the writers throwing in swearing like a teenage first discovering it with all the cringe factor of that, yeeeeah no.
The power of typos... and my mind going in different places at once while typing. :/
I thought it was delightful--and totally in character for Tilly.
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Amaris
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I believe the term you're looking for is "great places," or "amazing places."
All hail, Captain Killy. ♥
Except that isn't what they did.
Things I like about Discovery:
Real women with real women's bodies (no mastectomy bras), and none of the crew are wearing cat suits or--God help us all-- high heels.
Gay and lesbian couples.
Saru.
The final credits of the final episode with the original TOS theme music, starting with season 1 music and ending with the season 2 and 3 music.
Even though Lorca is Dukat falling into the fire caves dead, the real Lorca could still be out there.
Real women with real women's bodies (no mastectomy bras), and none of the crew are wearing cat suits or--God help us all-- high heels.
Gay and lesbian couples.
Saru.
The final credits of the final episode with the original TOS theme music, starting with season 1 music and ending with the season 2 and 3 music.
Even though Lorca is Dukat falling into the fire caves dead, the real Lorca could still be out there.
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Gonzo
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If it had just felt like it had been thrown in there to see the response it would have felt out of character.
I felt it was appropriate for her character in that moment so I was fine with it and didn't really pay it any more attention at all.
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